The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Chuff]

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	I think you have missed my point slightly. Of course many people always did everything they could to win, including cheating, but that wasn’t something people ever really admired. I’m talking about real acts of moral fortitude all the way from Chariots of Fire to snooker players calling fouls on themselves via Paolo di Canio’s play-stopping redemption; truly honourable acts that not only didn’t benefit the actor, but often impeded them.

Agreed, we all admire truly selflessness and honour but how often have and do they happen in mainstream politics? It's not something I would expect or particularly even look for there in order to save myself the inevitable disappointment. Jo Cox was reportedly probably the closest I can remember to such a thing and it took her untimely death to gain any widespread knowledge of or recognition for it.

[marton]

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	Agreed, we all admire truly selflessness and honour but how often have and do they happen in mainstream politics? It's not something I would expect or particularly even look for there in order to save myself the inevitable disappointment. Jo Cox was reportedly probably the closest I can remember to such a thing and it took her untimely death to gain any widespread knowledge of or recognition for it.

If you do not expect fair play then you contribute to it not happening.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	You have done your fair share of bullying in this thread, the bullies tend to be more left wing types, who did everything to stop BREXIT & prevent the Tories winning. Accept democracy in action & move on. No doubt Trump will win a second term

The irony is so immense it has its own event horizon.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	You have done your fair share of bullying in this thread, the bullies tend to be more left wing types, who did everything to stop BREXIT & prevent the Tories winning. Accept democracy in action & move on. No doubt Trump will win a second term

Where have I bullied anyone? Disagreed, yes, been sarcastic, yes, found stuff ridiculous, yes. You are the one constantly being antagonistic for some reason.

I see MC has agreed with you. Shocker.

Reported for another foul personal attack yet again supported by a mod.

[fatmanfilms]

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	been sarcastic, I see MC has agreed with you. Shocker. Reported for another foul personal attack yet again supported by a mod.

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	And public school cliquey bully boys. HTH. .

At least you accept you have been sarcastic.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	At least you accept you have been sarcastic.

Sarcasm isn’t bullying, to be fair.

Let’s face it some of the justification for Brexit on here was ripe for a sarcastic response because it’s so far from reality it’s practically a Dali painting.

[fatmanfilms]

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	Sarcasm isn’t bullying, to be fair. Let’s face it some of the justification for Brexit on here was ripe for a sarcastic response because it’s so far from reality it’s practically a Dali painting.

Justified or not in your opinion, it's how the electorate voted.
Some people here believed the electorate were too stupid to know what they voted for, however the electorate did not like it that their vote was ignored. Many of those same stupid knew exactly what they were voting for & voted Tory to get BREXIT done.

I was unable to vote, stood back & could see what would happen. I ignored the echo chamber of my FB friends.

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	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	At least you accept you have been sarcastic.

Why wouldn't I? Do you object to all sarcasm, just my sarcasm or sarcasm that you find hurty? I'm still waiting for evidence of bullying. Other than your bullying. Obvs.

Ah. I see you objected to my public school comment. Why is that? Wait. Did you go to public school? Is that it? It would explain a lot.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Justified or not in your opinion, it's how the electorate voted. Some people here believed the electorate were too stupid to know what they voted for, however the electorate did not like it that their vote was ignored. Many of those same stupid knew exactly what they were voting for & voted Tory to get BREXIT done. I was unable to vote, stood back & could see what would happen. I ignored the echo chamber of my FB friends.

Not sure whether you’ve lost the thread of your own point you were trying to make . You were accusing RufusB of bullying because she was apparently sarcastic.

Your opinion about the referendum is just your own opinion. I don’t think the electorate was stupid (exceptions, obvs). They were simply misled by charlatans with the biggest budget. There’s a difference.

So you allowed FB to formulate your opinions, then? Interesting.

[fatmanfilms]

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	So you allowed FB to formulate your opinions, then? Interesting.

I use what intelligent informed opinion tells me to do & do the reverse, it's worked with investing about 80% of the time over the last 30 years for me, which beats most analysts

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	Not sure whether you’ve lost the thread of your own point you were trying to make . You were accusing RufusB of bullying because she was apparently sarcastic. Your opinion about the referendum is just your own opinion. I don’t think the electorate was stupid (exceptions, obvs). They were simply misled by charlatans with the biggest budget. There’s a difference. So you allowed FB to formulate your opinions, then? Interesting.

I think I hurt his ex-public school feelings. No judgement, FMF, I've worked in both sectors. It must have been dreadful for you. *





*sarcasm. HTH.

[fatmanfilms]

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	I think I hurt his ex-public school feelings. No judgement, FMF, I've worked in both sectors. It must have been dreadful for you. * *sarcasm. HTH.

People in glass houses should not throw stones.

I thought only the crap teachers teach in public schools? I picked that up from this forum, no idea if it's true.

[greenmount]

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	Where have I bullied anyone? Disagreed, yes, been sarcastic, yes, found stuff ridiculous, yes. You are the one constantly being antagonistic for some reason.

I think he misunderstood your reference to public school bullies e.g. BJ and other politicians of this sort (David Cameron etc). For some reason FMF thinks it's all about him?

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	People in glass houses should not throw stones.

True. Which glass house are we talking about, flower? I've got a lovely one I grow tomatoes in.

	Quote:	greenmount
	I think he misunderstood your reference to public school bullies e.g. BJ and others. For some reason FMF thinks it's all about him?

Ah. So... public school embarassment? Privilege? Entitlement?

[greenmount]

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	Ah. So... public school embarassment? Privilege? Entitlement?

Chip on the shoulder.


Seriously though, these things shouldn't matter. The kind of politicians I like have usually 0 chances to win any elections.

Where did things become so bad and the public so easily manipulated, I have no idea. I thought it was more specific to weaker democracies, but no. It's a global trend.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	I use what intelligent informed opinion tells me to do & do the reverse, it's worked with investing about 80% of the time over the last 30 years for me, which beats most analysts

No offence, but it’s an anonymous forum so you can say whatever suits you about your virtual prowess. You could be an unemployed single mother in Barnstaple with a gambling habit or you could have been born with a silver spoon in your mouth and had family money helping smooth over your life. Who knows?

I’m a truck driver from Dundee but really I’m a secret billionaire...

[fatmanfilms]

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	Ah. So... public school embarassment? Privilege? Entitlement?

Why would it be an embarrassment to go to a public school? No entitlement or privilege it's either paid by your parents or gifted by the school. Less so now as foreign students were charged at least double fees, however that was outlawed by discrimination laws.

Have you got a chip on your shoulder?

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Why would it be an embarrassment to go to a public school? No entitlement or privilege it's either paid by your parents or gifted by the school. Less so now as foreign students were charged at least double fees, however that was outlawed by discrimination laws. Have you got a chip on your shoulder?

It’s privilege whoever picks up the tab.

Thought we covered this in another thread.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	People in glass houses should not throw stones. I thought only the crap teachers teach in public schools? I picked that up from this forum, no idea if it's true.

Did you? There you go! Well done you. A brilliant start.


Depends on on the public school. Depends on the kids and their parents. You must know, right? There must have been some kids at yours with even bigger issues than yours.

Right. Back to the aptly named Johnson being a proper bellend. ..

[greenmount]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	People in glass houses should not throw stones. I thought only the crap teachers teach in public schools? I picked that up from this forum, no idea if it's true.

Nah, I strongly advise you take everything on the internet with a pinch of salt..