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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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I seem to remember a lot of them were a bit too generous with terms like "leftie", "libtard", "social justice warrior", "cuck" and "snowflake" when trying to get their opinion heard on here.
You forgot virtue signalling, posturing.....
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You forgot virtue signalling, posturing.....
Group think is another one. Hysteria is one of my favourites.
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Group think is another one. Hysteria is one of my favourites.
Echo chamber?

There was no other place I could have ever learned to master these terms and the casual ahem...things beneath them, and for that I'm grateful.
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Echo chamber?

There was no other place I could have ever learned to master these terms and the casual ahem...things beneath them, and for that I'm grateful.
Ooh yes. Good one.

Wrong thread if you're grateful...
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You do realise that this is a discussion forum where there are plenty of folk who have differing views. I find that folk are often labelled as irrational when the brain froth becomes too saturated. There is no bullying in this case. No "mob mentality" in the disagreements. However there is a group of individuals whose views, in these instances, align/overlap/ concur/ whatever who are just as vocal as you. This isn't a soap box or a monologue arena.

If anything you are the one making endless accusations because, like a frustrated four year old who wants to win, it's not fair, they won't listen, they're not playing properly.

It's very clear to me that the world you think you live in and the one that actually exists are quite different. With some overlap. Need another Venn.




Exactly this. You are relentlessly, unnecessarily, combative and adamant that anyone not wholeheartedly agreeing with you is some sort of blinkered idiot.
No no no no no. You are not being fair! I am not combative, nor have I a problem with a difference of opinion. What I won't accept nor engage in is a relentless wave of tu quoque because there is clearly an agenda and shared opinion that goes beyond the topic being discussed!

And for your information it is bullying that goes on here. There's been enough proof and evidence from other people that it should be clear enough to you all. It doesn't help when so called "moderators" participate either! Sending passive aggressive messages, groaning almost anything that one writes for no other reason than to intimidate.
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No no no no no. You are not being fair! I am not combative, nor have I a problem with a difference of opinion. What I won't accept nor engage in is a relentless wave of tu quoque because there is clearly an agenda and shared opinion that goes beyond the topic being discussed!

And for your information it is bullying that goes on here. There's been enough proof and evidence from other people that it should be clear enough to you all. It doesn't help when so called "moderators" participate either! Sending passive aggressive messages, groaning almost anything that one writes for no other reason than to intimidate.
I'm afraid what little credibility you had before your grand exit, has evaporated after the meek return.

I suspect a good few others will join me in consigning you to the history bin of the ignore list.

It was a good effort TC, but you've become a bit transparent.
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Soooo, ignore list freshly updated, back to Brexit...

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The Irish border could yet snag Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal, with experts saying it will be impossible to deliver the computer systems for the special arrangements for Northern Ireland by the end of this year. Failure to implement the new systems will risk legal action by the European commission against Britain, the Institute for Government says.
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It doesn't help when so called "moderators" participate either! Sending passive aggressive messages, groaning almost anything that one writes for no other reason than to intimidate.
Or using "reverse psychology" - thanking every post made by people who seem to dislike those people they too dislike. Or at least antagonize them somehow. I agree, it doesn't help at all!

I propose an easy exercise of tolerance: let's try to agree with those we don't like at least once in a while. It's easy and should be practiced by anyone. Trust me, this is not an impossible exercise that even Dalai Lama would find difficult to accomplish. What do you think?


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Ooh yes. Good one.

Wrong thread if you're grateful...
I'll be more careful next time!
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Appropriate for the two people that offer up least in terms of the discussion but the most in twisting of words and snide and baiting comments. At least my user experience will improve as a result! Ignore reciprocated, thanks!
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Old 13.01.2020, 14:12
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Soooo, ignore list freshly updated, back to Brexit...
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The Irish border could yet snag Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal, with experts saying it will be impossible to deliver the computer systems for the special arrangements for Northern Ireland by the end of this year.
Failure to implement the new systems will risk legal action by the European Commission against Britain, the Institute for Government says.
One key point from your link is that this is a chicken and egg situation! They cannot even begin developing the new computer systems before they know what the new UK/EU trade deal will look like. Currently, most experts do not believe this deal can be finished by the end of 2020 as Boris has written into UK law.

If the UK does finish up in court for not implementing the withdrawal agreement with respect to Ireland then how will the US Congress view approval of any UK trade deal. Congress is committed to ensuring the Good Friday agreement is maintained and the UK not implementing the withdrawal agreement would not be welcomed.
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No no no no no. You are not being fair! I am not combative, nor have I a problem with a difference of opinion. What I won't accept nor engage in is a relentless wave of tu quoque because there is clearly an agenda and shared opinion that goes beyond the topic being discussed!

And for your information it is bullying that goes on here. There's been enough proof and evidence from other people that it should be clear enough to you all. It doesn't help when so called "moderators" participate either! Sending passive aggressive messages, groaning almost anything that one writes for no other reason than to intimidate.
I am being entirely fair - you no doubt believe yourself entirely fair too.

I agree that there is bullying on EF however I maintain you have not been bullied. Disagreed with wholesale yes,for your constant opinion as fact and empty statements, but not bullied.

Then why relentlessly attempt to swat down those who disagree and write in grandiose "we" statements?

How is there a shared agenda? Folk will agree or they will disagree.

Actually, never mind. Have at it.

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No no no no no. You are not being fair! I am not combative, nor have I a problem with a difference of opinion. What I won't accept nor engage in is a relentless wave of tu quoque because there is clearly an agenda and shared opinion that goes beyond the topic being discussed!

And for your information it is bullying that goes on here. There's been enough proof and evidence from other people that it should be clear enough to you all. It doesn't help when so called "moderators" participate either! Sending passive aggressive messages, groaning almost anything that one writes for no other reason than to intimidate.
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groaning almost anything that one writes for no other reason than to intimidate.
No, it's because it rubbish trolling at it's lamest.

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Taking back control...

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Two former Tory MPs including Boris Johnson’s friend Zac Goldsmith have been sworn into the House of Lords so they can keep their ministerial jobs.

Goldsmith, who was ousted by voters in the December election, has become Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park, the seat that he lost, and will keep his job as an environment and development minister.

Nicky Morgan has been given the title Baroness Morgan of Cotes and unusually stays on as culture secretary in the cabinet, having decided to quit the Commons at the election citing “abuse” she suffered while Loughborough MP.

The prime minister has been criticised for elevating the ermine-clad Tories to the Lords, and in particular Goldsmith, who is a friend of Johnson and his girlfriend Carrie Symonds.
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"Zac Goldsmith once criticised the EU for being "accountable to no-one". But after being rejected by the voters twice he finally gave up on democracy and became a Lord."
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Remember all that Brexit cr#p about "obeying the will of the people"?
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Remember all that Brexit cr#p about "obeying the will of the people"?
...unless your mates are going to be tipped out of a job. Then you find a convenient loophole and get the press to sell it as "a great British tradition", and vilify anyone who dares to point out the astonishing hypocrisy.
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...unless your mates are going to be tipped out of a job. Then you find a convenient loophole and get the press to sell it as "a great British tradition", and vilify anyone who dares to point out the astonishing hypocrisy.
It makes a mockery of everything.
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Production of a key Vauxhall Astra variant is being shifted to Germany from the UK, raising fresh fears for the firm's Ellesmere Port plant in Cheshire.

Vauxhall owner PSA Group will make the Astra estate in Russelsheim from 2022 - ratcheting up pressure on Ellesmere Port and its 1,000 staff.

The estate model represents the vast bulk of the 59,000 cars which roll off the UK site's production line each year, and losing it is a severe blow.

The question now is "Will they invest in the facilities to build a new model in UK or not"?
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Brexit set to cost us more than the previous 47 years of payments to the EU combined...

https://www.businessinsider.com/brex...20-1?r=US&IR=T

But hey, those blue passports...am i right?!
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Brexit set to cost us more than the previous 47 years of payments to the EU combined...

https://www.businessinsider.com/brex...20-1?r=US&IR=T

But hey, those blue passports...am i right?!
Why is unemployment lower than before the referendum & why is the UK stock market higher? Clearly investors believe future profits will be higher so are valuing the future revenue stream accordingly.
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