The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	For people who can’t find a job it would make sense after 10 years of scrounging for those able to work but just too lazy

I'm no monarchist, but even I think that's a bit harsh on the Queen and Phil.

[fatmanfilms]

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	I'm no monarchist, but even I think that's a bit harsh on the Queen and Phil.

Only people drawing benefits. I believe benefits should be a loan as in CH. Then if they ever receive an inheritance they can repay the loan or at their death from any assets left.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Only people drawing benefits. I believe benefits should be a loan as in CH. Then if they ever receive an inheritance they can repay the loan or at their death from any assets left.

When do you have to repay benefits in Switzerland?

[st2lemans]

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	When do you have to repay benefits in Switzerland?

Depends on the canton and the commune.

Tom

[st2lemans]

"Queen consults EU for tips on how to make it difficult for people to leave your organisation"

https://newsthump.com/2020/01/09/que...HUxYUlcZKLc_Fo

Tom

[fatmanfilms]

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	When do you have to repay benefits in Switzerland?

When you have enough income or receive an inheritance.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	When you have enough income or receive an inheritance.

Unemployment benefit you mean, seeing as you referenced ‘scroungers going back to work after 10 years’ in an earlier post? Isn’t that an insurance based benefit here?

What’s the threshold for repayment?

[fatmanfilms]

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	Unemployment benefit you mean, seeing as you referenced ‘scroungers going back to work after 10 years’ in an earlier post? Isn’t that an insurance based benefit here? What’s the threshold for repayment?

In CH thats insurance so no & Job seekers allowance is only short term.
Social benefits in CH are repayable, so people who are given money after unemployment benefits run out for example.

Threshold will vary but if you are earning more than your minimum substance then you will be expected to start repaying the loan, given in a time of need. Very sensible it's to help you out of a sticky situation not a free gift.

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Social benefits in CH are repayable.

Not always, also depends on the canton, and the town.

Tom

[marton]

	Quote:	porsch1909
	He married Venus Williams did he not?

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	I think it was Serena.

No, Serena never married Venus

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Only people drawing benefits. I believe benefits should be a loan as in CH. Then if they ever receive an inheritance they can repay the loan or at their death from any assets left.

So once they rack up a file on benefits there is even less motivation to join the work force and living in a council house, they won’t have much assets either

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	So once they rack up a file on benefits there is even less motivation to join the work force and living in a council house, they won’t have much assets either

Works well enough in CH....... they won't let you have a car or any luxuries like that, such things need to be sold. In CH you are expected to support your parents & children if they have financial issues....... In France children have to pay towards their parents care costs if earning a good salary.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Works well enough in CH....... they won't let you have a car or any luxuries like that, such things need to be sold.

Better public transport in CH. Wouldn't work in vast majority of the UK.

[rainer_d]

Plus, the number of people who active don't want to own a car is growing in CH.

They need to think of something else for those.

;-)

Actually, as the economy moves more and more towards "renting" rather than owning, I wonder what that means for social benefits (and means to "sanction" its recipients)?

[greenmount]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Works well enough in CH....... they won't let you have a car or any luxuries like that, such things need to be sold. In CH you are expected to support your parents & children if they have financial issues....... In France children have to pay towards their parents care costs if earning a good salary.

Isn't one expected to support their parents or children if they have financial issues anywhere in this world?
Provided they're able to help. But careful here, FMF. Elderly care is a huuge issue in Europe, especially in countries where population is ageing, conditions in senior homes are not always good or too expensive etc etc You might need some immigrant to take care of your mom* (or child) while you're busily building your career or having a bliss in Mallorca......(you in general)
*as she deserves - constantly and at the highest standards meaning undivided attention....

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Works well enough in CH....... they won't let you have a car or any luxuries like that, such things need to be sold.

I know a Swiss guy on benefits who has a car.

Tom

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	greenmount
	Isn't one expected to support their parents or children if they have financial issues anywhere in this world?

No.

Tom

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	greenmount
	Isn't one expected to support their parents or children if they have financial issues anywhere in this world? Provided they're able to help. But careful here, FMF. Elderly care is a huuge issue in Europe, especially in countries where population is ageing, conditions in senior homes are not always good or too expensive etc etc You might need some immigrant to take care of your mom* or child while you're busily building your career or having a bliss in Mallorca......(you in general) *as she deserves - constantly and at the highest standards meaning permanent attention....

Old age care is expensive, however people that own a house worth on average in the UK £250K expect the state to pay in full & then they can leave their children the £250k house. I think that care home fees should be collected at death if the assets exist. Care costs are an expense of living, no reason for the state to pick up the tab for the better off.

[bowlie]

Don’t shoot the messenger.

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	The UK Embassy in Berne is holding another Facebook live Q&A session next week, allowing UK nationals in Switzerland and Liechtenstein to ask any questions they may have about Brexit. They will answer questions on 14 January, from 12:15-13:15, but are already going to start taking questions 24 hours before. See this link for more information. The Embassy is aware that not all of the members of the British Residents’ Association use Facebook. In case, BRA members would appreciate the opportunity to ask their questions outside Facebook, the Embassy is happy to take questions collated by me (chairman@britishresidents.ch). Graham Robertson Chairman, BRA chairman@britishresidents.ch www.britishresidents.ch

[CodPeace]

Response to FMF


I agree, the mind set still is 'This is my house, why do I need to sell it? I've 'paid in' all my life!'



However........ any assets over £23k are 'taken' by the council if they provide the care.
They also take any income over £25 a week.


It's a reasonable system.
https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information...r-a-care-home/