The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[gaburko]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The data is less than a week old!

Did you bother to read your own link?!

There were more than 485,000 international students enrolled in UK higher education institutions in 2018/19, an increase of 6% over the previous year

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The data is less than a week old!

The article is less than a week old but the data is not.
Did you actually read it?

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	The article is less than a week old but the data is not. Did you actually read it?

It's TC, what do you think?

He is the ultimate in forum guerrilla warfare. Hide after previous shame, pop up with some new shite, hide in shame, ad infinitum.

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	gaburko
	Did you bother to read your own link?! There were more than 485,000 international students enrolled in UK higher education institutions in 2018/19, an increase of 6% over the previous year

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	The article is less than a week old but the data is not. Did you actually read it?

Don’t accuse me of something when you’ve obviously not done it yourselves. If you had you would see the data was released on the 16th January. It is the latest statistics that are available!! Or are you expecting for 2019/2020 data 22 days into the new year?!

https://www.hesa.ac.uk/news/16-01-20...ent-statistics

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Don’t accuse me of something when you’ve obviously not done it yourselves. If you had you would see the data was released on the 16th January. It is the latest statistics that are available!! Or are you expecting for 2019/2020 data 22 days into the new year?! https://www.hesa.ac.uk/news/16-01-20...ent-statistics

Released yes. But it actually relates to the 2018 intake so the situation some 16 months ago.

[TonyClifton]

Whoops, I’m danger of getting dragged into another boring “we can dissect your argument to “own” you!”. Not interested! The good news keeps on coming, The CBI habe just recorded the biggest upward swing ever in business confidence. Happy days! I just know for the cynical Remainers that even if Brexit is the biggest success ever they’ll never ever admit it!

[gaburko]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	if Brexit is the biggest success ever they’ll never ever admit it!

Can you give your definition of what a successful Brexit looks like, say, 12 months from now?

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	gaburko
	Can you give your definition of what a successful Brexit looks like, say, 12 months from now?

Non alignment with the EU is a success, ECJ no longer having jurisdiction is a success. Anything else is a bonus.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Whoops, I’m danger of getting dragged into another boring “we can dissect your argument to “own” you!”.

No. It's that you posted something out of context thus giving a false impression. I don't know whether that was deliberate or accidental, hence why I asked the question.

You posted...

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	There's been a lot of positive Brexit news over the past week or so.... ... the number of new UK university enrollments from EU countries up 2% ...

... but the article you provided the link for says...

	Quote:
	HESA data for 2019/20 will be particularly interesting to observe in light of the restoration of post-study work rights as well as the continuing Brexit process.

The only time 2% is mentioned in the article is in this context...

	Quote:
	The latest Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) data shows a slight increase in new students coming from EU countries (2%) with larger gains coming from markets outside the European Union (10%). Non-EU first-year student numbers grew by 18,475 between 2017/18 and 2018/19, with most of this increase at the postgraduate level.

[gaburko]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Non alignment with the EU is a success, ECJ no longer having jurisdiction is a success. Anything else is a bonus.

what do you mean non-alignment with EU? BJ want to get a trade deal with EU which would requite certain alignment. Or you mean scrap any trade deal and trade only with NZ and AUS?

[Blueangel]

For anyone who's interested, this is from yesterday's FT...

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	UCL has the largest intake among all British universities of non-UK EU students, with more than 5,000 enrolled in the last academic year, but EU admissions stagnated in 2019-20 after strong growth in previous years. The total EU intake for all under- and postgraduate study last year in the UK was 143,000.

https://www.ft.com/content/544a0bc8-...a-bae547046735

[gaburko]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	For anyone who's interested, this is from yesterday's FT... https://www.ft.com/content/544a0bc8-...a-bae547046735

Could this be the non-alignment with EU that TonyClifton is talking about? So this is a success already in your book, right Tony?

[greenmount]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	You're a camera lens? I reckon you're more Vivitar myself, with a splash of Tamron.

I suppose it's a fancy word for zen. ("I'm so sigma.") Or who knows. Oh, I get it now. She's very different.

	Quote:
	1. Unconscious incompetence 2. Conscious incompetence 3. Conscious competence 4.Unconscious competence. Effective teachers are at stage four but are continually open to and engaged in further learning or they would soon be back at stage 1. It's basic really. .

Effective teachers also know they're not teachers in every situation and at any given moment of the day. I hope.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	greenmount
	I suppose it's a fancy word for zen. ("I'm so sigma.") Or who knows. Oh, I get it now. She's very different.

I've no idea. To me, Sigma is a camera lens manufacturer, but to my OH, it's a letter of the Greek alphabet.

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I've no idea. To me, Sigma is a camera lens manufacturer, but to my OH, it's a letter of the Greek alphabet.

To me it’s a chemical company.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I've no idea. To me, Sigma is a camera lens manufacturer, but to my OH, it's a letter of the Greek alphabet.

Lower case sigma means standard deviation.

Capital case sigma means the sum of. Tbh I always think of the second.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Non alignment with the EU is a success, ECJ no longer having jurisdiction is a success. Anything else is a bonus.

Non alignment with the EU affects the UK's ability to trade on a level playing field. As far as I'm aware, the ECJ will still have juridiction in the event of an air crash. There's still a long way to go with EASA, which will hopefully be resolved by Jan 2021, but I've heard nothing about a body replacing the role of the ECJ in air crash investigations.

[Raffles]

	Quote:	MusicChick
	I am so sigma.

By this I take it to mean the Urban Dictionary definition.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	To me it’s a chemical company.

It was a codified metaphor for "being different than the norm"....I suppose.
Seriously, it reminds me of a specific phase in high-school.

[roegner]

I only know Six Sigma