The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[marton]

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	Is that a question?

It is easy to recognise questions, they have a question mark like this "?".

[curley]

So when is this actually happening? In 4.5 hours?

It's quite a thing to happen, no matter what one thinks about it: It's a first and - after four hysterical (in all meanings of that word) years - historical.

[marton]

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	Ooh look! More lies... Today...

Just the first of many lies coming home to roost; somebody should start a website to record them for future historians.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	curley
	So when is this actually happening? In 4.5 hours?

Tomorrow so 28 hours 15 minutes

	Quote:	marton
	It is easy to recognise questions, they have a question mark like this "?".

To be fair, marton, many of your statements on EF end in a question mark!

[curley]

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	To be fair, marton, many of your statements on EF end in a question mark!

That is a sign of openness and tolerance. He makes a statement, willing to be questioned and criticized.

I wondered if I should put a sarcastic emoticon but actually: Nope.

[McTAVGE]

“Only in the agony of parting do we look into the depths of love.”
― George Eliot


For me, on so many levels.

[Blueangel]

"‘Twas the night before Brexit
When all through the state
Some people were worried
Concerned for their fate
Claims had been made without enough care
In the belief that EU membership was grossly unfair

Brexiters were nestled content in their beds
While visions of the 1950s danced in their heads
Boris in his tie and Nigel in his blazer
Congratulated each other on a good interest raiser

Then on Twitter there arose such a clatter
As Leavers and remainers continued the chatter
Away to Facebook I flew for a wheeze
To see people arguing about the new 50ps

Will Big Ben bong?
Will our passports be blue?
Were curvy bananas really banned by the EU?

The sky remained grey as the rain tumbled down
The green and pleasant land turned slowly to brown
When what to my feline eyes did appear?
But a leadership contest, led by a Keir

With Rebecca and Emily and Lisa N too
To pick up the pieces, though missing the glue
Now Cummings, now Raab now Shapps & Patel,
Now Gove, now Fox now Boris Johnson as well!
You got what you wanted, the victory is yours
But please don’t close all our windows or slam all the doors

Is Brexit hell or is Brexit heaven?
We start to get the answer tomorrow at 11
And so I exclaimed, without too much fuss
Farewell to the EU; it’s not you, it’s us."

~ Larry the Cat
https://twitter.com/Number10cat/stat...53476159873024

[AquoIcePostCH]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Were curvy bananas really banned by the EU?

No, as all bananas have a curve anyway. It's just that the curve varies.

[Tom1234]

After tonight, can we change the thread title or start a new one with these possible titles:

The Brexit aftermath thread: actual consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in the EU.

The Brexit aftermath thread:What the hell have we done?

The Brexit aftermath thread:Why didn't we do it sooner?

[AquoIcePostCH]

	Quote:	Tom1234
	After tonight, can we change the thread title or start a new one with these possible titles: The Brexit aftermath thread: actual consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in the EU. The Brexit aftermath thread:What the hell have we done? The Brexit aftermath thread:Why didn't we do it sooner?

Most of the consequences though will only take real and legal effect after the transition period. Most will need to use this time to prepare for their future after that period has ended.

[AquoIcePostCH]

https://www.economist.com/leaders/20...n-after-brexit

Britain after Brexit

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	AquoIcePostCH
	No, as all bananas have a curve anyway. It's just that the curve varies.

Please feel free to take it up with the cat.

*words you never expected to say*

I'm so glad I'm Out Out tonight.

Such a bad day.

We should start a poll, see when folk reckon we'll be back in by.

[Blueangel]

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	We should start a poll, see when folk reckon we'll be back in by.

I don't think we will in my lifetime at least, purely because we had the best deal in the block and the new terms wouldn't be the same as what we've given up.

[Chuff]

I watched the Channel 4 documentary on Nigel Farage last night... it was really fascinating viewing. Gloating and undignified toad though he may be, it's clear he really did dedicate his entire career to the pursuit of Brexit and wasn't (compared to the average politician) some career politician looking to simply line his own pocket and self-servingly elevate himself to the Great Boys Club. He really did believe in his cause and in the end I respect his commitment to it.

It was also good insight into how much BS is in politics and his descriptions of it as a "big game" were telling because I have no doubt that he really does know extremely well what goes on behind the scenes with all of the BS tactics used by all politicians to get what they want. It's mostly a pretense and a sham and having the best interests of the public at heart seems to have little to do with anything at higher level politics.

[Mikers]

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	I watched the Channel 4 documentary on Nigel Farage last night... it was really fascinating viewing. Gloating and undignified toad though he may be, it's clear he really did dedicate his entire career to the pursuit of Brexit and wasn't (compared to the average politician) some career politician looking to simply line his own pocket and self-servingly elevate himself to the Great Boys Club. He really did believe in his cause and in the end I respect his commitment to it. It was also good insight into how much BS is in politics and his descriptions of it as a "big game" were telling because I have no doubt that he really does know extremely well what goes on behind the scenes with all of the BS tactics used by all politicians to get what they want. It's mostly a pretense and a sham and having the best interests of the public at heart seems to have little to do with anything at higher level politics.

The most amazing part is he hasn't received any public award for it. They are given to failed politicians, business leaders to preside over disaster, all kinds of absolute turnips, yet here is someone who has spent the last 25 years trying to get Britain to believe in his vision, he's done it, Britain makes the most significant international move it's done since it joined 47 years ago and his reward ? nothing. because the people giving out the awards don't like his idea and so in their opinion he wont get one.

We give them out for winning games of football and running two laps of a running track fairly quickly, so it can all be kept in perspective.

	Quote:	Mikers
	The most amazing part is he hasn't received any public award for it. They are given to failed politicians, business leaders to preside over disaster, all kinds of absolute turnips, yet here is someone who has spent the last 25 years trying to get Britain to believe in his vision, he's done it, Britain makes the most significant international move it's done since it joined 47 years ago and his reward ? nothing. because the people giving out the awards don't like his idea and so in their opinion he wont get one. We give them out for winning games of football and running two laps of a running track fairly quickly, so it can all be kept in perspective.

Gongs and Titles are meaningless nowadays (have been for quite some time to be fair), as you say, so I doubt he's too bothered if he gets one or not.

[Chuff]

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	Gongs and Titles are meaningless nowadays (have been for quite some time to be fair), as you say, so I doubt he's too bothered if he gets one or not.

I think he was bothered about being shunned. At the end he saw himself as helping the tories and it was clear he felt insulted that Boris never once reached out to him and that his efforts were never even once acknowledged (eg: when he was with Gove on the radio). Even when the Tories kept trying to screw him he kept repeating something to the effect of: "I don't think Boris is 'that' kind of guy, he just has nasty people working for him". There was almost a certain naivety about him.

Also interesting was how much he feared Dominik Cummings, the mere mention of his name make him look not just angry and bitter, but distinctly... uneasy.

Oh, and Richard Tice... goodness grief what an absolute and utter plonker that man is. Like an extremely posh David Brent from The Office.

[Mikers]

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	Gongs and Titles are meaningless nowadays (have been for quite some time to be fair), as you say, so I doubt he's too bothered if he gets one or not.

I dunno, I think it would mean something to him but he'd never admit it. plus it would ruin his carefully projected image as a "man of the people" which I don't really think he is.

It just seems a bit wrong that almost every minister gets promoted to being a lord no matter how much of a disaster they were when they tried to run their department yet someone who is a success in his "department", gets fully ignored because the judges dont like him.