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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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After tonight, can we change the thread title or start a new one with these possible titles:

The Brexit aftermath thread: actual consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in the EU.

The Brexit aftermath thread:What the hell have we done?

The Brexit aftermath thread:Why didn't we do it sooner?
Brexit hasn't happened yet. Not properly. The UK is still transitioning. At the moment (in just under 5 hours time, anyway) it just self-identifies as not part of the EU.
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Boris intends to snub the Scots & other home nations, as well as the continentals with a full English menu
for tonights Brexit Day celebrations.

The Mirror - Inside Boris Johnson's exclusive Brexit bash with full English fayre menu
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Old 31.01.2020, 19:21
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Brexit hasn't happened yet. Not properly. The UK is still transitioning. At the moment (in just under 5 hours time, anyway) it just self-identifies as not part of the EU.
I wonder what overseas countries identify the UK as tomorrow?

Seems to me this transition period is not really a good thing. GB is "nicht Fisch, nicht Vogel" as a German saying goes and can't really be dealt with in a serious manner.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-51324431

MP Sammy Wilson says the UK is breaking free from the "EU prison" and the "dank dungeon which has bound our economy, stunted our growth and restricted our economic freedom".

"It is important that the government does not allow the EU to continue its control through conditions attached in the negotiations which now have to follow about what our relationship is outside the walls of the European Union," he says.

"It is already apparent from what EU negotiators are saying that they will be aiming to keep Britain on a very short leash and if the prime minister and the government do not robustly oppose the EU in these future negotiations then Brexit will not be done."
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Old 31.01.2020, 20:42
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MP Sammy Wilson says the UK is breaking free from the "EU prison" and the "dank dungeon which has bound our economy, stunted our growth and restricted our economic freedom".

"It is important that the government does not allow the EU to continue its control through conditions attached in the negotiations which now have to follow about what our relationship is outside the walls of the European Union," he says.

"It is already apparent from what EU negotiators are saying that they will be aiming to keep Britain on a very short leash and if the prime minister and the government do not robustly oppose the EU in these future negotiations then Brexit will not be done."
Poor Sammy he still does not get it... Boris will do a Canadian style deal with the EU by the end of the year, leaving NI and Sammy in the CU.
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Old 31.01.2020, 21:02
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Here's some Brexit light relief for Brexit Night !!

Boris and Trump together at last - video
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Old 31.01.2020, 22:02
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!!!HAPPY BREXIT DAY!!!



In a few short hours the UK will finally leave the European Union. Well done Remainers, you fought are hard fight, but now it's time for everyone to reconcile, unite and move on TOGETHER. We HAVE to because remember if you are British, at the stroke of twelve we ALL become Brexiteers!!

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Old 31.01.2020, 22:15
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Sorry, but that is a training wheels Brexit at best.
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Old 31.01.2020, 22:21
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unite and move on TOGETHER.

The irony is strong on this one......
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Old 31.01.2020, 22:33
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!!!HAPPY BREXIT DAY!!!



In a few short hours the UK will finally leave the European Union. Well done Remainers, you fought are hard fight, but now it's time for everyone to reconcile, unite and move on TOGETHER. We HAVE to because remember if you are British, at the stroke of twelve we ALL become Brexiteers!!


But for a caveat to that famous saying 'Except for our Viewers in Scotland' where 62 per cent of them
voted to remain in the EU.
Here's what the Scots think about Brexit Day and no doubt the many Remainers in the UK concur.
Finally your sadly deluded if you think its all over - as it's only the beginning of the return.


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Old 31.01.2020, 22:49
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Take it with a pinch of salt as it's RT but I find it hilarious. There might be some traces of truth, who knows.

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As the British MEPs head back to London from Brussels for the final time on Friday, they leave behind not just a fractured European Union still tortured over Brexit, but a legacy of bad behaviour, corruption and boorish antics.
The standout character for poor behaviour was greedy Ashley Mote, who was sentenced to five years in 2015 on a string of fraud-related charges after ripping off the parliament for nearly £500,000 (US$650,600).

In another incident, his colleague, MEP Tom Wise, was sentenced to two years in prison in 2009 when he was found guilty of fraud after funnelling money into a secret account that was used to buy shipments of fine wine and other personal items at the taxpayers' expense.

Meanwhile, transgender lesbian MEP Nikki Sinclaire, a striking figure in Brussels standing well over two metres tall, beat money laundering charges and allegations of misconduct in public office after a police investigation that spanned nearly four years up to 2016.

But financial misconduct is not the only thing UK MEPs will be remembered for.



An Irish pub on the steps of the parliament became a no-go zone for politicians from other nations once the British delegation commandeered it, with their arguing and shouting putting off clientele simply looking for a quiet place to drink. The pub eventually shut and is now a health-food deli.

Elsewhere, one MEP took her staff out for dinner at a restaurant only to kick off when one of her troupe was mistakenly given a chicken dish when he had asked for the vegetarian option.
Punches were thrown and several police vehicles arrived to quell the melee. The politician then played her trump, an immunity card given to all MEPs should they find themselves on the wrong side of the law in Brussels.


No further action was taken, but the shaken vegetarian left his job shortly afterwards, telling me he could no longer handle the madness.

Other staff members have not been so discerning in their behavior, with allegations rife of sexual harassment, drug abuse, and even attempted suicide, all during work hours. Again, these matters were dealt with quietly and quickly to ensure there was no media coverage. No fuss, no story, insiders like to say.

While the procession of politicians through the halls of the European institution reads like a Who's Who of British politics, from former Lib Dem leader and Deputy PM Nick Clegg, to ex-Labour chief Neil Kinnock, along with his wife Gladys and even their son, Stephen, it was the previously unknown Steven Woolfe, now plying his trade as a painter and decorator, who provides us with the most memorable image of 45 years of EU membership.


It is Woolfe splayed unconscious on a crosswalk inside the Parliament, in a classic dead man's pose while still holding the handle of his briefcase, following an alleged altercation with fellow MEP Mike Hookem during a meeting of one UK delegation.

The facts were disputed as to what actually happened, and an internal investigation failed to unravel the mess. Neither man faced re-election for a second term.

There is no doubt the poor discipline, massive egos and boorish antics certainly brought attention to the European Parliament. Maybe not the attention it sought, but it will certainly be a far duller place now the Brits are now longer there or in residence at the Beer Factory, a cheap and cheerful bar that acts as a de facto HQ for many MEPs and their staff.

Their former colleagues in the parliament will not be too upset to see them go, as the atmosphere towards the Brits, particularly the Eurosceptic politicians and staff, has been distinctly frosty since the 2016 referendum and positively icy as the departure date looms ever closer.

So Friday at 9am, the largest group of UK MEPs will walk out the main doors of the Parliament waving a large Union Jack. A short speech will be made on the institution's steps, then it's on a bus to the Eurostar terminal for the short trip to London.
They will never return to the corridors of the European Parliament and you can hear the sighs of relief there already.

The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/479395-fare...ep-corruption/
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But for a caveat to that famous saying 'Except for our Viewers in Scotland' where 62 per cent of them
voted to remain in the EU.
Here's what the Scots think about Brexit Day and no doubt the many Remainers in the UK concur.
Finally your sadly deluded if you think its all over - as it's only the beginning of the return.


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Not the 38% that voted Brexit surely?!

And no, I donít think this is the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning
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And what about Boris today and his Post Brexit Britain, reaching out to the English regions with a cabinet meeting
in Sunderland, talk of the House of Lords moving to York and a full English menu for his Brexit celebrations tonight.

Notice the word English !!!

For a PM who says he wants to embrace the whole of the UK and make it a more United Kingdom - he's doing
a great job in alienating Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland from the only part of the UK that Boris counts
as being of any consequence in his plans so far - England !!

Of course he might put some money - Northern Irelands way if he needs the support of the DUP again but
now the Assemblys up and running, even Northern Ireland could drop off the tories radar.
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Happy Brexit all, from Irelandís newest Citizen 😂
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Well, at least Ireland knows that all the new citizens they got over the past months are not loyal and can't be counted on, should problems arise.
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Well, at least Ireland knows that all the new citizens they got over the past months are not loyal and can't be counted on, should problems arise.
There are reasons why only citizens permanently resident in the country plus those who have left within 12 months are allowed to vote.....
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Not the 38% that voted Brexit surely?!
Plus all of those who chose not to vote or who were not eligible to vote.
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There are reasons why only citizens permanently resident in the country plus those who have left within 12 months are allowed to vote.....
Why shouldn't an Irish citizen be allowed to vote even if they lived abroad for longer than 12 months?
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So, see EU later?
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Poor Sammy he still does not get it... Boris will do a Canadian style deal with the EU by the end of the year, leaving NI and Sammy in the CU.
We really donít know what the outcome will be, and itís pointless pretending we do.
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