The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[greenmount]

	Quote:	gaburko
	Mend fences!? We make no compromises here, we'er EF-ers!

Sure, if there's something left to mend.

DB too has obviously thought there's not much more he could add (or mend) on EF.
(since he was mentioned....on yet another thread...lucky bastard, he's a Saint now ...I'm kidding, I'm sure he'd understand.)

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	amogles
	... but afterwards we all mend fences and talk about something else (as say, DB would do)?

I was peed off when Loz left. He could be an absolute jerk, but he could also make me laugh and talk about other stuff.

[gaburko]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I was peed off when Loz left. He could be an absolute jerk, but he could also make me laugh and talk about other stuff.

Funny you use "left" as if it was a voluntary decision when he was in fact banned. And we go back to the randomness of the so-called mods. Some members go on and abuse every thread they post in and get away with it, others get banned for smaller infractions.

Wasn't this the Brexit thread?

[amogles]

	Quote:	greenmount
	DB too has obviously thought there's not much more he could add (or mend) on EF. (since he was mentioned....on yet another thread...lucky bastard, he's a Saint now ...I'm kidding, I'm sure he'd understand.)

I'm pretty sure he'll be back in some way. The Ef was to much part of his life.

[hairybadger]

	Quote:	amogles
	I'm pretty sure he'll be back in some way. The Ef was to much part of his life.

People who leave here become force ghosts, more powerful than we can possibly imagine?

[amogles]

	Quote:	hairybadger
	people who leave here become force ghosts, more powerful than we can possibly imagine?

most recent photo of DB.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	gaburko
	Funny you use "left" as if it was a voluntary decision when he was in fact banned. And we go back to the randomness of the so-called mods. Some members go on and abuse every thread they post in and get away with it, others get banned for smaller infractions. Wasn't this the Brexit thread?

I don't know. I missed all the furore over what caused his ban (think I was on holiday at the time), but he was back from that and asked for his account to be deleted instead. I've got an knack of missing threads that get people banned for and often have to read pages of stuff to try and understand what went on...but usually get bored halfway through The recent one about a chocolate maker is a case in point. Had no interest in the thread from the off, but apparently, it went south. Hey ho! It's just words on a screen to me.

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	gaburko
	Funny you use "left" as if it was a voluntary decision when he was in fact banned. And we go back to the randomness of the so-called mods. Some members go on and abuse every thread they post in and get away with it, others get banned for smaller infractions. Wasn't this the Brexit thread?

He did indeed leave of his own free will. He asked to leave after he had served his ban.
Banned users don’t have their whole profiles deleted and become ‘guests’.

[3Wishes]

	Quote:	gaburko
	Funny you use "left" as if it was a voluntary decision when he was in fact banned.

Actually, that is not a fact. Loz received a temporary ban, which by the way wasn't his first. He then created a dupe account, which was also banned. At the same time, the original ban was extended. But it was never a permanent ban.

After that, HE chose to contact EB for account deletion. He's welcome back if he wants, as he was not permanently banned.

Edit - At least imo he's welcome back so long as he behaves. Other mods might feel differently.

[gaburko]

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	He did indeed leave of his own free will. He asked to leave after he had served his ban. Banned users don’t have their whole profiles deleted and become ‘guests’.

ok, my bad. I saw "banned" under his profile and assumed that, well, he was banned

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	gaburko
	ok, my bad. I saw "banned" under his profile and assumed that, well, he was banned

Well he was on occasions, justifiably so, but not all the time.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	3Wishes
	Actually, that is not a fact. Loz received a temporary ban, which by the way wasn't his first. He then created a dupe account, which was also banned. At the same time, the original ban was extended. But it was never a permanent ban. After that, HE chose to contact EB for account deletion. He's welcome back if he wants, as he was not permanently banned. Edit - At least imo he's welcome back so long as he behaves. Other mods might feel differently.

According to his profile he is permanently banned. https://www.englishforum.ch/members/180057-loz.html

[Ouchboy]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	According to his profile he is permanently banned. https://www.englishforum.ch/members/180057-loz.html

the loz people talk about is loz1983


3wishes is right

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	According to his profile he is permanently banned. https://www.englishforum.ch/members/180057-loz.html

That was his duplicate profile.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	gaburko
	ok, my bad. I saw "banned" under his profile and assumed that, well, he was banned

Still think there was no reason for that?

[fatmanfilms]

1,000,000 EU citizens want to stay permanently in London, 3,000,000 over the entire country, sounds like the UK is still a good choice for many.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a4355281.html

[3Wishes]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	1,000,000 EU citizens want to stay permanently in London, 3,000,000 over the entire country, sounds like the UK is still a good choice for many. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a4355281.html

Thanks for getting back on topic.

Folks, please stop the back-and-forth personal attacks as well as the comments about users who have chosen to leave. It's getting very old to type the same request on multiple threads. I don't feel like spending hours going and deleting posts, when some people make a good (and actually thread-related) point in the middle of all the bickering.

If you can't keep on topic, this thread can be closed too. And if you all think mods are being too soft, I can start dishing out bans for good measure.

So to follow my own rule and stay on-topic...
Johnson has put another hard deadline that he doesn't want to move in terms of the transition period. But there's a ton of ground to cover and a lot of minute details.

He did manage to get the withdrawal agreement re-opened and, at least in his mind, fixed the Irish border problem. Who here thinks he will get it all done by the end of the year?

	Quote:	3Wishes
	So to follow my own rule and stay on-topic... Johnson has put another hard deadline that he doesn't want to move in terms of the transition period. But there's a ton of ground to cover and a lot of minute details. He did manage to get the withdrawal agreement re-opened and, at least in his mind, fixed the Irish border problem. Who here thinks he will get it all done by the end of the year?

I think he'll substantially move the goalposts from his original statement, get something else done and then insist that's what he intended all along. Fun times.

[gaburko]

	Quote:	3Wishes
	He did manage to get the withdrawal agreement re-opened and, at least in his mind, fixed the Irish border problem. Who here thinks he will get it all done by the end of the year?

As you said, whatever he gets done in whatever way will ultimately turn into exactly what he supposedly intended to begin with and his cheerleaders will applaud him all the way.
More seriously though, personalities like him and Trump truly fascinate me, they bend reality. I don't think Einstein thought about bending time and space as human capabilities and yet, here we are. Which begs the question when intelligent people supporting Brexit disagree with us (remainers) they honestly believe we don't get it. Same thing vice-versa and it's no longer a matter of polite and objective dialogue. We're passed that. What's next though? Do we split into atomic societies that live physically separated based on common value systems? I mean, it really seems we are in front of a huge societal shift and maybe the whole concept of nation-states is the problem? Brexit and Democrats vs. Republicans just happen to make us acutely aware of the problem, but this is just the symptom, sort of like coughing as a symptom of pneumonia and coronavirus

Like Uri Geller bends spoons?