The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[fatmanfilms]

On a lighter note, The French BREXIT song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPLe...qXWsqosqIeOTLU

oh yes, spot on and turning truer by the day

Or as Bush said 'the French have no word for entrepreneur'...

Finish in German 'Schadenfreude'

[fatmanfilms]

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	oh yes, spot on and turning truer by the day Or as Bush said 'the French have no word for entrepreneur'...

However the tax status of a self employed person in France is Auto-entrepreneur

ah - car mechanic... or car salesman ? lol. Dellboy, I knew it (in jest ...of course)

ah well, you have to keep your GSOH hey

https://www.facebook.com/alex.andreo...8162205834136/

[marton]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	His divorce isn't even final, but the PM has an announcement that confirms what certain freelance folk have been saying for ages... Boris Johnson and girlfriend Carrie Symonds expecting first baby together - and get engaged https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...gaged-11945648

Some Swiss newspapers in their subtle way announced this as Boris is expecting "at least" his sixth child.

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	First Girlfriend kriegt ein Baby. Carrie Symonds, die Mutter von Boris Johnsons (mindestens) sechstem Kind.

[marton]

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	The UK is to withdraw from the European Union aviation safety regulator (EASA) after the Brexit transition period, Grant Shapps has confirmed. The transport secretary said many of the most senior figures at the organisation headquartered in Cologne, Germany were British and that they would gradually return to the UK throughout this year as regulatory powers reverted to the Civil Aviation Authority.

Source

Wonder if the Brits have agreed to return?

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	Before a newly developed aircraft model may enter into operation, it must obtain a type certificate from the responsible aviation regulatory authority. Since 2003, EASA is responsible for the certification of aircraft in the EU and for some European non-EU Countries. This certificate testifies that the type of aircraft meets the safety requirements set by the European Union.

Seems a strange idea?
Currently, I believe, no complete aircraft are built in the UK just parts.
Is it planned to issue new type and other certificates for all foreign aircraft entering the UK and/or being repaired and maintained, if so, that would take years of testing and cost a fortune?
The Boeing 737Max being a current case?

Currently, only the EU has suitable testing facilities so would UK contract testing to the EU?

The UK aerospace industry has estimated that it would take a decade and cost between £30m and £40m a year to create a UK safety authority with all the expertise of EASA, against a current contribution to the European agency of £1m to £4m annually.

There is an EU paper on this.

[TonyClifton]

The EU response (or rather lack of) to the coronavirus has been remarkable. Whilst strong in regulation and ideology, the EU is hopeless in times of crisis. It was the case during the last financial crisis, also during the migrant crisis and now again during the coronavirus pandemic.

It may not yet be on the radar, but Italy’s economy is finished, coronavirus being the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. The next euro crisis is just around the corner, now who believes the EU have learned the lessons from 12 years ago?!

[TonyClifton]

To follow up on my last post, German Interior Minister Seehofer today announced border controls for Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg and Denmark. Listen to his language, “ In the absence of an EU-level solution to COVID 19, the nation state has to step in to act in its own interests.”

[marton]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	To follow up on my last post, German Interior Minister Seehofer today announced border controls for Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg and Denmark. Listen to his language, “ In the absence of an EU-level solution to COVID 19, the nation state has to step in to act in its own interests.”

Both of your last two posts are "off topic".

Are you really proposing the EU should have executive powers over the individual EU States

You, and Seehofer, both seem to be unaware of the European coordinated response to counter the economic impact of the Coronavirus?

[Treverus]

So for years have you guys been fighting to "take back control" and "lock your border"… but now that we are facing a global pandemic are you the only European country not closing your border?

To say it in the words of J-C Juncker: "Everyone understands English, but nobody understands the English"...

[Raffles]

We don't understand ourselves, never mind the rest of the world.

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	Treverus
	So for years have you guys been fighting to "take back control" and "lock your border"… but now that we are facing a global pandemic are you the only European country not closing your border? To say it in the words of J-C Juncker: "Everyone understands English, but nobody understands the English"...

Rather many choose not to understand the different reasons for Brexit, for many this wasn't about immigration. I expect many of these are the same people that complained when President Trump put in his Coronavirus related travel ban last week but were then silent when the EU did the same this week!

[Pachyderm]

	Quote:	Treverus
	So for years have you guys been fighting to "take back control" and "lock your border"… but now that we are facing a global pandemic are you the only European country not closing your border?

In a word, no, we're not. In fact very few European countries have "closed their borders". Have any?

Certainly several countries have closed their land borders. Take a look at a map. Can you see why the UK may not have closed its land borders?

[greenmount]

This "lockdown" makes a lot of people angry....

EF is best to be avoided these days.

[Treverus]

	Quote:	Pachyderm
	In a word, no, we're not. In fact very few European countries have "closed their borders". Have any? Certainly several countries have closed their land borders. Take a look at a map. Can you see why the UK may not have closed its land borders?

Um, no. Its not about land borders. The EU is locking down and wont allow anyone to enter. I believe from tomorrow, but I dont know the exact details as I dont care.

All travel agents fly their customers back, but thousands are stranded. The German government alone has hired dozens of aircraft and is flying back all German tourists from around the world, over 20k alone from Egypt, as the normal flights are already cancelled due to the lock down. Other western European countries are doing the same.

Its the biggest operation of its kind in EU history.

"Brussels’ Schengen free-travel zone will see third party nationals, excluding doctors, medical staff and cross-boarder workers, ban from making all non-essential into the bloc. UK and Irish nationals will not be part of the sweeping travel bans, as eurocrats consider plans to maintain travel with non-Schengen members. Britain will remain exempt because of the post-Brexit transition period until at least the end of next year." https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...uk-coronavirus

[NotAllThere]

	Quote:	greenmount
	This "lockdown" makes a lot of people angry....

It does. From those who think it's a major overreaction to those who think that if you walk outside keeping away from people, you are a major risk to public health.

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	EF is best to be avoided these days.

Nah. Just don't engage with the angry people. It's probably just they're very very afraid. It doesn't bring the best out of people. Me, I'm just very afraid, so I'm chilled.

[TonyClifton]

Remember how everyone used to worry about the economic impact of a no deal Brexit? Given the events of the past few weeks, it seems like a lot of fuss over nothing now

[John William]

Here's the thoughts of Nigel Farage commenting on the crisis from his lockdown home somewhere outside the European Union.


Nigel Farage expresses his opinion on the Virus Crisis

[marton]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Remember how everyone used to worry about the economic impact of a no deal Brexit? Given the events of the past few weeks, it seems like a lot of fuss over nothing now

Comparing apples and oranges?
They will eventually find a vaccine for this virus but never for Brexit....