The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[greenmount]

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	He's a very charismatic person, with a certain level of perceived credibility, and I really do wonder if the referendum might have gone the other way had he decided to stick with his previous convictions the the EU could be good for Britain.

BJ is a very charismatic person?

According to whom? He's anything but. To me he seems to be a pompous ass (not as arrogant as Cameron though) and a liar. Fake, artificial, insincere.

[CodPeace]

	Quote:	greenmount
	BJ is a very charismatic person? According to whom? He's anything but. To me he seems to be a pompous ass (not as arrogant as Cameron though) and a liar. Fake, artificial, insincere.

Yes! Exactly! That utterly vile Boris Johnson leading the Conservatives to their best election result in 35 years, and that charismatic, charming, honest, visionary Jeremy Corbyn leading Labour to their worst defeat since WWll.


It's almost as is the (silent) majority of people do not agree with your opinion. Who'd have thought it?

	Quote:	CodPeace
	Yes! Exactly! That utterly vile Boris Johnson leading the Conservatives to their best election result in 35 years, and that charismatic, charming, honest, visionary Jeremy Corbyn leading Labour to their worst defeat since WWll. It's almost as is the (silent) majority of people do not agree with your opinion. Who'd have thought it?

Now please show me where greenmount even mentions Corbyn.

Polling clearly indicates the majority of the UK electorate agree with greenmount. 34% positive to 47% negative on the last yougov poll I can find.

[Blueangel]

Just read this and thought best to post it for anyone who may benefit...

'Brits in the EU to get common residence card
European Commission wants a single physical document for all Britons living in the EU by the end of the transition period.'

By CRISTINA GALLARDO 2/28/20, 9:00 AM CET Updated 2/28/20, 1:52 PM CET
https://www.politico.eu/article/brit...dence-documen/

[Blueangel]

In other news...

Remember the brexit claim to 'take back control of our borders'? Well it appears that they're not making a very good job of it considering that this ITV & GMB reporter returned unchecked from Milan into Heathrow last night. Video in the link...

Nick Dixon
@NickDixonITV 22h
Just arrived at Heathrow T5 after 4 days in Milan - was fully expecting a thermal temperature check. Nothing. Straight through. #CoronaVirus #COVID @GMB
https://twitter.com/NickDixonITV/sta...37276654993413

This is a markedly different approach to when he arrived into Milan Linate on 24 Feb...

@NickDixonITV
Feb 24
Temperature checks for passengers arriving at Milan (Linate) airport before being allowed through #Coronavirius #CoronavirusOutbreak #coronaviruslombardia @GMB
https://twitter.com/NickDixonITV/sta...30770509877248

[marton]

Michael Gove, the chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, who is responsible for readying the country for full Brexit at the end of the year, confirmed in parliament on Thursday afternoon that the Road Haulage association estimated 50,000 new recruits would be needed in the next six months.

They are required to handle additional Brexit paperwork needed for border operations.

circa £2 billion per year?

[Blueangel]

His divorce isn't even final, but the PM has an announcement that confirms what certain freelance folk have been saying for ages...

Boris Johnson and girlfriend Carrie Symonds expecting first baby together - and get engaged
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...gaged-11945648

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	His divorce isn't even final, but the PM has an announcement that confirms what certain freelance folk have been saying for ages... Boris Johnson and girlfriend Carrie Symonds expecting first baby together - and get engaged https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...gaged-11945648

Congratulations to them.

[marton]

	Quote:	marton
	Seems likely Boris is going to make a claim on the EU "solidarity fund" for some hundreds of millions of support to help repair the damage caused by the recent storms in the UK. The claim has to be submitted by next Sunday. Did I ever write you could not make this stuff up?

No surprise!

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	The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government (James Wharton). I am today announcing that the UK Government will make an application to the EU solidarity fund.

Source Hansard

[fatmanfilms]

On a lighter note, The French BREXIT song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPLe...qXWsqosqIeOTLU

oh yes, spot on and turning truer by the day

Or as Bush said 'the French have no word for entrepreneur'...

Finish in German 'Schadenfreude'

[fatmanfilms]

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	oh yes, spot on and turning truer by the day Or as Bush said 'the French have no word for entrepreneur'...

However the tax status of a self employed person in France is Auto-entrepreneur

ah - car mechanic... or car salesman ? lol. Dellboy, I knew it (in jest ...of course)

ah well, you have to keep your GSOH hey

https://www.facebook.com/alex.andreo...8162205834136/

[marton]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	His divorce isn't even final, but the PM has an announcement that confirms what certain freelance folk have been saying for ages... Boris Johnson and girlfriend Carrie Symonds expecting first baby together - and get engaged https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...gaged-11945648

Some Swiss newspapers in their subtle way announced this as Boris is expecting "at least" his sixth child.

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	First Girlfriend kriegt ein Baby. Carrie Symonds, die Mutter von Boris Johnsons (mindestens) sechstem Kind.

[marton]

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	The UK is to withdraw from the European Union aviation safety regulator (EASA) after the Brexit transition period, Grant Shapps has confirmed. The transport secretary said many of the most senior figures at the organisation headquartered in Cologne, Germany were British and that they would gradually return to the UK throughout this year as regulatory powers reverted to the Civil Aviation Authority.

Source

Wonder if the Brits have agreed to return?

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	Before a newly developed aircraft model may enter into operation, it must obtain a type certificate from the responsible aviation regulatory authority. Since 2003, EASA is responsible for the certification of aircraft in the EU and for some European non-EU Countries. This certificate testifies that the type of aircraft meets the safety requirements set by the European Union.

Seems a strange idea?
Currently, I believe, no complete aircraft are built in the UK just parts.
Is it planned to issue new type and other certificates for all foreign aircraft entering the UK and/or being repaired and maintained, if so, that would take years of testing and cost a fortune?
The Boeing 737Max being a current case?

Currently, only the EU has suitable testing facilities so would UK contract testing to the EU?

The UK aerospace industry has estimated that it would take a decade and cost between £30m and £40m a year to create a UK safety authority with all the expertise of EASA, against a current contribution to the European agency of £1m to £4m annually.

There is an EU paper on this.

[TonyClifton]

The EU response (or rather lack of) to the coronavirus has been remarkable. Whilst strong in regulation and ideology, the EU is hopeless in times of crisis. It was the case during the last financial crisis, also during the migrant crisis and now again during the coronavirus pandemic.

It may not yet be on the radar, but Italy’s economy is finished, coronavirus being the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. The next euro crisis is just around the corner, now who believes the EU have learned the lessons from 12 years ago?!

[TonyClifton]

To follow up on my last post, German Interior Minister Seehofer today announced border controls for Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg and Denmark. Listen to his language, “ In the absence of an EU-level solution to COVID 19, the nation state has to step in to act in its own interests.”

[marton]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	To follow up on my last post, German Interior Minister Seehofer today announced border controls for Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg and Denmark. Listen to his language, “ In the absence of an EU-level solution to COVID 19, the nation state has to step in to act in its own interests.”

Both of your last two posts are "off topic".

Are you really proposing the EU should have executive powers over the individual EU States

You, and Seehofer, both seem to be unaware of the European coordinated response to counter the economic impact of the Coronavirus?

[Treverus]

So for years have you guys been fighting to "take back control" and "lock your border"… but now that we are facing a global pandemic are you the only European country not closing your border?

To say it in the words of J-C Juncker: "Everyone understands English, but nobody understands the English"...