View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen? |
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
|    | 49 | 23.11% |
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
|    | 33 | 15.57% |  | | | 
29.03.2020, 15:57
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | This is the point, Germany have already started to struggle for a lack of asparagus pickers. It has nothing to do with Brexit. | | | | | Apparently since Brexit, UK has a lack of pheasant pluckers. | The following 2 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | | 
29.03.2020, 16:42
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | One wonders how they used to get fruit and veg picked before they had immigrants to do it for them. | | | | | Back in the day it was mostly small, family-owned farms producing foods for locals as opposed to giant commercial corporations mass-producing fruit, veg and livestock. People ate local foods when in season and didn't import/export off-season. There were mostly local butchers and bakers and shops, not massive supermarkets, for example. | This user would like to thank 3Wishes for this useful post: | | 
29.03.2020, 16:51
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | This is the point, Germany have already started to struggle for a lack of asparagus pickers. It has nothing to do with Brexit. | | | | | Such a pity that the unemployed in these countries really can't help | This user would like to thank k_and_e for this useful post: | | 
29.03.2020, 17:52
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Back in the day it was mostly small, family-owned farms producing foods for locals as opposed to giant commercial corporations mass-producing fruit, veg and livestock. People ate local foods when in season and didn't import/export off-season. There were mostly local butchers and bakers and shops, not massive supermarkets, for example.  | | | | | That's true. People used to get paid a fair days wage too.
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29.03.2020, 17:58
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | And somewhere along the line it clicked that it was much more profitable to simply exploit foreign labour instead. | | | | | So how many voters do you think will vote in a party that has overseen the increase in the cost fresh fruit and vegetables by say 20% - 25%??? Because in the end that is what it comes down to.
And remember in the UK, the farmer and the land owner are not the same think...
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | That's true. People used to get paid a fair days wage too. | | | | | LOL! You are funny.
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29.03.2020, 18:26
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Apparently since Brexit, UK has a lack of pheasant pluckers.  | | | | | I hear their sons are finding work elsewhere also.
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29.03.2020, 18:45
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | So how many voters do you think will vote in a party that has overseen the increase in the cost fresh fruit and vegetables by say 20% - 25%??? Because in the end that is what it comes down to.
And remember in the UK, the farmer and the land owner are not the same think... | | | | | This is like deja vu, we discussed this and a lot of the problems involved about 10 pages back.
I realise it's not easy and that any changes made would take a lot of time yet I'm not convinced that continually importing immigrants who are willing to work for shitty conditions is a long term solution.
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29.03.2020, 19:01
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | So how many voters do you think will vote in a party that has overseen the increase in the cost fresh fruit and vegetables by say 20% - 25%??? Because in the end that is what it comes down to. | | | | | a price increase is not a bad thing as you will have fair wages on short term and a trigger for innovation on the long term. much better than a price race to the bottom.
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29.03.2020, 19:07
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | This is like deja vu, we discussed this and a lot of the problems involved about 10 pages back.
I realise it's not easy and that any changes made would take a lot of time yet I'm not convinced that continually importing immigrants who are willing to work for shitty conditions is a long term solution. | | | | | And the answer is still the same it will change until the voters are willing to accept it. Politicians do why get's them elected.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | And the answer is still the same it will change until the voters are willing to accept it. Politicians do why get's them elected. | | | | | Like Brexit?
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29.03.2020, 20:11
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | a price increase is not a bad thing as you will have fair wages on short term and a trigger for innovation on the long term. much better than a price race to the bottom. | | | | | In these days of UK National Minimum Wage and UK National Living Wage, your claims of unfair wages are as outdated as other posts.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | a price increase is not a bad thing as you will have fair wages on short term and a trigger for innovation on the long term. much better than a price race to the bottom. | | | | | Exactly this, they either need to pay a reasonable wage, or make some capital investment in automation and technology.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in
Positive reports today about Boris and his steady progress to recovery.
After at least three days in intensive care, I doubt he will be ready for the rigours of the PM job for a long time. Other COV-19 survivors after intensive care report they are very weak and can only resume a fraction of the previous activities.
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09.04.2020, 16:41
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Positive reports today about Boris and his steady progress to recovery.
After at least three days in intensive care, I doubt he will be ready for the rigours of the PM job for a long time. Other COV-19 survivors after intensive care report they are very weak and can only resume a fraction of the previous activities. | | | | | Still wondering about the contradictory nature of some reports. Earlier today he was supposed to be off Oxygen, an hour or so ago I read in a ticker he was still on it.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Still wondering about the contradictory nature of some reports. Earlier today he was supposed to be off Oxygen, an hour or so ago I read in a ticker he was still on it. | | | | | I think despite what they say about being open, they'll keep it fairly secret because of the possible impact to the country stability etc - if they tell us he's deteriorating and could soon die it has financial impacts on the markets and so on. Until he is fully out of ICU I would just consider him very unwell whatever they might be saying about him sitting up etc.
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09.04.2020, 19:17
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Still wondering about the contradictory nature of some reports. Earlier today he was supposed to be off Oxygen, an hour or so ago I read in a ticker he was still on it. | | | | | I was taken off Oxygen 8 days after my ski accident, then resumed with oxygen for another 5 days.
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09.04.2020, 22:19
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Still wondering about the contradictory nature of some reports. Earlier today he was supposed to be off Oxygen, an hour or so ago I read in a ticker he was still on it. | | | | | He'd been on positive push (term?) Oxygen, so not intubated but with steady oxygen being introduced to his system.
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10.04.2020, 10:36
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Apparently since Brexit, UK has a lack of pheasant pluckers.  | | | | | Is UK practically still in the EU i.e. do they have coordinated actions re. corona virus crisis?
Asking for a friend.
On a more serious note, I'm asking because I don't follow Brexit anymore. It's been tiring and senseless.
Many EFers were always claiming UK is not in Europe, so each to their own.
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10.04.2020, 11:49
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Is UK practically still in the EU i.e. do they have coordinated actions re. corona virus crisis?
Asking for a friend. 
On a more serious note, I'm asking because I don't follow Brexit anymore. It's been tiring and senseless.
Many EFers were always claiming UK is not in Europe, so each to their own. | | | | | Is the EU itself actually significantly coordinating (not a dig but a genuine question)?
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