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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Might be a bit old-fashioned but I always thought ganging up and bullying one person was rather rude to say the least.
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Old 28.04.2020, 19:19
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Might be a bit old-fashioned but I always thought ganging up and bullying one person was rather rude to say the least.
Is this a confession
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Old 28.04.2020, 20:10
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where is the ganging up? One person posts something which is not understood by others- a polite question is asked about clarifying the meaning. Instead of giving a simple answer, that person chooses to post something unpleasant and rude, and then continues to refuse to clarify- never mind retract or remove the unpleasant answer. Is it not fair enough to repeat a simple request to clarify what the person meant- how can this add up to 'ganging up'.

Can't be asked (my sp) myself- but it says more about the person refusing to clarify, than those who politely asked for said clarification. End of ...
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Old 28.04.2020, 20:43
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where is the ganging up? One person posts something which is not understood by others- a polite question is asked about clarifying the meaning. Instead of giving a simple answer, that person chooses to post something unpleasant and rude, and then continues to refuse to clarify- never mind retract or remove the unpleasant answer. Is it not fair enough to repeat a simple request to clarify what the person meant- how can this add up to 'ganging up'.

Can't be asked (my sp) myself- but it says more about the person refusing to clarify, than those who politely asked for said clarification. End of ...
It goes well beyond your question or this thread.
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Old 28.04.2020, 20:59
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It seems whenever push comes to shove the EU manages to lose its spine. Actions like this also put a big dent in the argument that we need the EU to stand up to China and the US!

EU ‘watered down’ report on Chinese disinformation about Covid-19

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...about-covid-19
Maybe it is the general principle that you do not bite the hand that is feeding you, even if you consider that that hand has a distasteful yellow tinge to it. The EU members are highly reliant of goods from China and are learning slowly that clamoring over each other to gain the epithet of the US's most servile lackey has no long future to it.
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Old 28.04.2020, 21:05
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It goes well beyond your question or this thread.
Not for me it does not. Someone has just explained past events- when I was not active here on EF.
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Old 28.04.2020, 21:07
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Not for me it does not. Someone has just explained past events- when I was not active here on EF.
It’s amazing how much Full Circle seems to know about everything given they only joined in January and have less than 200 posts.

It’s almost as though they’ve been here before.
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It’s amazing how much Full Circle seems to know about everything given they only joined in January and have less than 200 posts.

It’s almost as though they’ve been here before.
You'd have to be blind to not notice it - and if it's been going on longer that just makes it even worse.

(though I do see the funny side, given that the offenders no doubt see themselves as tolerant and open-minded )
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Might be a bit old-fashioned but I always thought ganging up and bullying one person was rather rude to say the least.
It's all in the rough and tumble of fora interactions, innit.

I think repeatedly refusing to answer polite questions is also bloody rude but there we go.
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You'd have to be blind to not notice it - and if it's been going on longer that just makes it even worse.

(though I do see the funny side, given that the offenders no doubt see themselves as tolerant and open-minded )


Cannot decide which dupe you are ... but a dupe you must detinitely be. Sweet of you to leap to the defence of someone after "only" being here 4 months.
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Is this a confession
Don't know, but defo really boring. The old stirring up and arguing ad nauseam "in good faith" points that have been made countless times for anyone with a iota of common sense to see and judge for themselves.
People ganging up on people they accuse of "ganging up", now tell me since when hypocrisy is new.

Still veeeery difficult for some to agree to disagree.

I think it's not really about Brexit here, it never was.
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Cannot decide which dupe you are ... but a dupe you must detinitely be. Sweet of you to leap to the defence of someone after "only" being here 4 months.
Ah but if they’d been here longer they’d know the history and wouldn’t be so quick to make bullying accusations.
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Old 28.04.2020, 22:27
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Ah but if they’d been here longer they’d know the history and wouldn’t be so quick to make bullying accusations.
The bully always cries "Catch the bully!".
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Old 28.04.2020, 23:21
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It's all in the rough and tumble of fora interactions, innit.

I think repeatedly refusing to answer polite questions is also bloody rude but there we go.
Repeatedly asking the same question is anything but polite.

Where have the good old days gone with their "nobody owes you anything on here"?
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Old 28.04.2020, 23:44
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A friend of mine once said something like, "die Parteien und politsichen Farben wechseln, die Amstinhaber bleiben".
That's probably unavoidable. You can't rebuild a state without the knowledge, which usually means you need experienced people. Many of which must have been members of the old government until recently or they would have moved on long ago.
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Repeatedly asking the same question is anything but polite.

Where have the good old days gone with their "nobody owes you anything on here"?
Posts need to be clear. Oder?
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Where have the good old days gone with their "nobody owes you anything on here"?
Who knows. I guess no-one should ask anything then? I think it's completely useless to have certain discussions on internet fora anyway. Lack of accountability is only one of the reasons.

But I'm pretty sure this discussion will go on in the same style and with the same "reliability" as long as this forum will somehow survive.....despite everything.
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That's probably unavoidable. You can't rebuild a state without the knowledge, which usually means you need experienced people. Many of which must have been members of the old government until recently or they would have moved on long ago.
We had that too, what amogles mentioned that happened in Germany.. People active in anti nazi dissent turning into post WWII commie colaborators and eventually contributing to the same terror that they initially fought against, just under a different name. I understand the twist as an unethical but still a mode of Darwinian self preservation and survival. Yet, part of me finds it completely incomprehensible. Tragic cases of confirmation bias.

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We had that too, what amogles mentioned that happened in Germany.. People active in anti nazi dissent turning into post WWII commie colaborators and eventually contributing to the same terror that they initially fought against, just under a different name. I understand the twist as a unethical but still a mode of survival. Yet, part of me finds it completely uncomprehensible. Tragic cases of confirmation bias.
People do whatever they believe they have to do to survive.
Of course, there are always a few with morals or ethics or principles but, sadly, they usually get rolled over by the steam roller of history.
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Repeatedly asking the same question is anything but polite.

however, the answer is so so simple - just explain, job done. A question is only asked repeatedly if ignored- especially with a sarcastic and unpleasant comment attached. Simple.
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