The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Subservient foreigners that reminded them of the days of empire... that should be grand! But white, assertive, educated Europeans that challenge them is another matter... Racism in British politics seems to be pretty well focused...

Hong Kongese are well educated thanks to our ties we share culture, language, history and the idea of liberty. Which is why it is so important that we support our friends now in their time of need. It is the noble and right thing to do, and they have far more of a right to enter the UK than any Bulgarian or Latvian as there is a real bond there unlike the abstract ideology that forms the basis of the EU.

[marton]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The UK government is looking to open the door to 300,000 Hong Kongese as the situation in Hong Kong deteriorates. Will this put to bed the terrible allegation that Brexit was fueled by racism?

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Hong Kongese are well educated thanks to our ties we share culture, language, history and the idea of liberty. Which is why it is so important that we support our friends now in their time of need. It is the noble and right thing to do, and they have far more of a right to enter the UK than any Bulgarian or Latvian as there is a real bond there unlike the abstract ideology that forms the basis of the EU.

Do you see any contradiction between these two? Maybe you have to be Bulgarian or Latvian to pick up the faint nuances?

[marton]

BTW it is a little more than 300,000!

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	Britain mulls pathway to citizenship for more than 3M inhabitants of Hong Kong

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You must be very happy, ten times more Hongkongese

[Jim2007]

John Hume once said of the Good Friday agreement that it was Sunningdale for slow learners. Well the slow learners are finally catching up!

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	The DUP says it now sees the "advantage" of a deal that contains backstop features it disliked

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[greenmount]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Hong Kongese are well educated thanks to our ties we share culture, language, history and the idea of liberty. Which is why it is so important that we support our friends now in their time of need. It is the noble and right thing to do, and they have far more of a right to enter the UK than any Bulgarian or Latvian as there is a real bond there unlike the abstract ideology that forms the basis of the EU.

So are the Bulgarians and Latvians, too bad you didn't get to know too many of them irl. I wouldn't link the idea of liberty to not supporting EU. That's a logical fallacy and you're committing it here with the intention to hurt or whatever. It would be better to stick to the topic imo.



Btw, is it OK to write ignorant stuff about some groups but not about others?

OK, back to Brexit now.

What's happening lately? Is Brexit a fact or...? Everyone in the EU wants it. I think.

The budget for the economic reconstruction is already decided. UK is not part of it, of course.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	greenmount
	So are the Bulgarians and Latvians, too bad you didn't get to know too many of them irl. I wouldn't link the idea of liberty to not supporting EU. That's a logical fallacy and you're committing it here with the intention to hurt or whatever. It would be better to stick to the topic imo. Btw, is it OK to write ignorant stuff about some groups but not about others? OK, back to Brexit now. What's happening lately? Is Brexit a fact or...? Everyone in the EU wants it. I think. The budget for the economic reconstruction is already decided. UK is not part of it, of course.

BREXIT has already occurred, thats why you don't hear anything anymore

[greenmount]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	BREXIT has already occurred, thats why you don't hear anything anymore

Thanks, FMF. I guess this is what I wanted to know.

[marton]

Did these turkeys vote for Christmas?

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	Nissan has warned that its massive plant in Sunderland won't be sustainable if the United Kingdom fails to strike a new deal with the European Union that maintains tariff-free trade in cars.

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[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	marton
	Did these turkeys vote for Christmas? Source

Remainers can't accept nor explain that a car plant in Sunderland remains open at the expense of another one in Barcelona. They've been telling us for years that it was only a matter of time before it closed due to Brexit

[marton]

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	UK formally rejects an extension to transition period

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No surprise really. As they say when launching ships "good luck to all who sail in her.

[fatmanfilms]

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/un...120610214.html

Unilever chooses London over Rotterdam, clearly the risk of no deal with the EU is a non event.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...ZPdTteSle1PFkA

The EU will even get a British Vaccine for Covid -19, I always thought the UK was going to get a vaccine last, oh silly me the Brits got a vaccine first.

Taking control is not looking too bad, remind me who needs an extension ?

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/un...120610214.html Unilever chooses London over Rotterdam, clearly the risk of no deal with the EU is a non event. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...ZPdTteSle1PFkA Taking control is not looking too bad, remind me who needs an extension ?

Do you even bother to read and fully understand the links you post as well as the finer points of corporate restructuring that may have had a place in the 1930's but is antiquated now. From the company statement


The group employs 2,500 people in the Netherlands and 6,000 in the UK. It said the change would have no real impact on the day-to-day running of the business. “There will be no change to the operations, locations, activities or staffing levels in either the UK or the Netherlands as a result of unification,” it said in a statement.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Mr Dog
	The group employs 2,500 people in the Netherlands and 6,000 in the UK. It said the change would have no real impact on the day-to-day running of the business. “There will be no change to the operations, locations, activities or staffing levels in either the UK or the Netherlands as a result of unification,” it said in a statement.

You clearly have a bad memory, Unilever was supposed to give up it's UK listing & move to the EU over BREXIT, however the shareholders who can sack the management did not approve of the idea. The management had to make a sharp U turn.

BREXIT was never going to make much difference which is the whole point you have missed.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	You clearly have a bad memory, Unilever was supposed to give up it's UK listing & move to the EU over BREXIT, however the shareholders who can sack the management did not approve of the idea. The management had to make a sharp U turn. BREXIT was never going to make much difference which is the whole point you have missed.

Precisely, so why raise it in connection with Brexit (whether an extension is needed) and on a thread about Brexit!

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Mr Dog
	Precisely, so why raise it in connection with Brexit (whether an extension is needed) and on a thread about Brexit!

There have been 1375 pages, with people making various claims of the many problems the UK would face as a result of BREXIT & how the UK needed a deal more than the EU.

Seems perfectly reasonable to point out I have been correct all along.

[marton]

	Quote:	John William
	Yes yet another expense to be deducted from the so called savings from the Brexit dividend - in fact with HMG getting themselves seriously committed to forking out millions if not billions of pounds of taxpayers money to setup their own Sat-nav system - that they would have otherwise have got on the cheap and as an EU member state benefit - if the UK had voted to remain in the EU and therefore have remained in the EU's Galileo sat-nav system project. So where are the savings from leaving the EU ? As all I see is extra cost to the British taxpayer thanks to Brexit !!

Seems the UK own Sat-nav system is unlikely to be successful as they bought the wrong satellites.

[John William]

So by all accounts the UK - EU Trade talks are still not going well, with many areas in which the
2 delegations disagree rather than come to any form of agreement on - so this intervention
by the ERG made me laugh !!

Dear Mr Michel Barnier

[Flying Kite]

I can believe people still speaking about Brexit, is done...
It happened ... UK economy nosedive by shrinking 1/3 in the second quarter, 2/3 of colleagues been sacked...everything is happening because of virus of course...how convenient...

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	There have been 1375 pages, with people making various claims of the many problems the UK would face as a result of BREXIT & how the UK needed a deal more than the EU. Seems perfectly reasonable to point out I have been correct all along.

The difference being, however, 4.5 years of preparation by the end of the transition phase instead of an immediate shock.

Besides, your 'puter is broken, it's only 688 pages if you use the correct settings.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	John William
	So by all accounts the UK - EU Trade talks are still not going well, with many areas in which the 2 delegations disagree rather than come to any form of agreement on - so this intervention by the ERG made me laugh !! Dear Mr Michel Barnier

So basically EU must accommodate UK even post-Brexit? I don't see why should that happen. Once you choose to get out, you're out. No more preferential treatment or anything. Theoretically. I came across some articles about a research project that involves a few countries and of course UK will be involved too, EU doesn't suck when they can take advantages... I apologise to all the decent British here, but all this Brexit thing/mess and for so many years! it has created some resentments in return of which I'm well aware..so I'll give this thread the final break.