The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[greenmount]

	Quote:	Ato
	Is this post really necessary? You complain that the forum has become unfriendly, mourn the leaving of others and you post things like this?

Frankly yes, it is really necessary but I don't expect you to agree with me. Were the last replies and exchanges here really necessary, since they complained so much about the "departed lefties"? Absolutely not, but I didn't expect you to see that either. So please, not that that I owed you a reply or justification but I found your post incredibly biased and quite unacceptable. As much as most of this thread actually. It seems some people can dish it out but can't take it...

Oh, and perhaps you needn't worry too much for the gang, "high flyers" as they call each other here grow a thick skin apparently and don't expect the world bending over to cater for their sensibilities lol.....I'll leave it all to you, it's too funny.

	Quote:	MusicChick
	They grow out of many things and grow some thick skin, too. Then couldn't care less in which form or shape stuff gets delivered to them, don't expect the world bending over to their sensibilities too much, n'est pas? .

[st2lemans]

	Quote:
	Yes, they're all flocking to the UK for the great weather and the delicious local cuisine.

Alas, if they do they will be quarantined:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53773914

Tom

[Full Circle]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Correction. Most were highly educated people who could run rings around you, and you never were able to construct a good case to put forward your position.

Yes, that's why so many of them were prone to throwing hissy fits and flouncing

[marton]

Always a sound policy to criticise people who are not around to defend themselves.

Reminds me of the old saying "If you cannot kick a man when he is down then when can you kick him?".

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	marton
	Attachment 140043 Always a sound policy to criticise people who are not around to defend themselves. Reminds me of the old saying "If you cannot kick a man when he is down then when can you kick him?".

I believe some of them are back

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	I believe some of them are back

Which ones?

[YuropFlyer]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Pretty ironic after being told for the past 4 years what a racist, xenophobic, terrible country the UK has become that asylum seekers are actually risking life and limb to cross the channel in inflatable boats to escape the EU and live in the UK!

Try to work in the UK without a permit vs. working in the European Union without a permit.

But then apparently all the Brexit-lovers enjoy literally no controls on who is working on what in UK..

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	YuropFlyer
	Try to work in the UK without a permit vs. working in the European Union without a permit. But then apparently all the Brexit-lovers enjoy literally no controls on who is working on what in UK..

Of course, it was my attempt at a joke, however there is a lot of truth to it. In spite of what one reads, the UK still remains a VERY desirable destination for many, despite Brexit.

The UK has no one to blame for mass illegal immigration other than herself. No ID cards, no registration, anyone who turns up can simply disappear. The Grenfell Tower disaster gave a glimpse at just how many illegal immigrants there are living in the UK. Hard to blame those that are risking their lives to cross the channel when such opportunity awaits. The time for prevention has long passed and the UK will now have to live with the consequences of her mistakes.

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Of course, it was my attempt at a joke, however there is a lot of truth to it. In spite of what one reads, the UK still remains a VERY desirable destination for many, despite Brexit. The UK has no one to blame for mass illegal immigration other than herself. No ID cards, no registration, anyone who turns up can simply disappear. The Grenfell Tower disaster gave a glimpse at just how many illegal immigrants there are living in the UK. Hard to blame those that are risking their lives to cross the channel when such opportunity awaits. The time for prevention has long passed and the UK will now have to live with the consequences of her mistakes.

At least we haven't reached the situation like in the US, where people are offered pathways to citizenship through illegal migration. That's just nuts. Really you can only have a liberal (legal) immigration policy if you are strict on illegal migration.

A bit like how you can (de facto) only have a colour blind immigration system if you don't have EU freedom of movement. I was pretty pissed living in the UK how having a non-UK, non-EU wife, we were treated less favourably than a EU couple and had to pay huge amounts of money (thousands) for her permanent residence.

I'm all for the benefits of migration, but it should be legal and it should be equal-access.

	Quote:	Belgianmum
	Which ones?

Usual rule applies. Whenever fatty says "I believe" you know it's complete bollox.

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Of course, it was my attempt at a joke

Complete failure, then.

	Quote:	Pandalicious
	You dont know what youre talking about. The French Navy have been escorting boats full of illegal immigrants into UK waters, this is after the UK already paid the French millions to prevent this.

Usual Farage & co bullsh1t. UK getting all upset about a few hundred boat people. Niw remind me, how many migrants did Germany / Italy / Greece / even Switzerland take in recent years?

[Full Circle]

	Quote:
	Usual Farage & co bullsh1t. UK getting all upset about a few hundred boat people. Niw remind me, how many migrants did Germany / Italy / Greece / even Switzerland take in recent years?

I think people are upset about it because these "few hundred boat people" (677 last week alone) are supposedly seeking refuge from ... France

[k_and_e]

	Quote:
	Usual Farage & co bullsh1t. UK getting all upset about a few hundred boat people. Niw remind me, how many migrants did Germany / Italy / Greece / even Switzerland take in recent years?

That's a strange point to make. If you would have mentioned refugees, then I would have agreed with you, but why should countries absorb illegal migration at all?

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:
	Usual rule applies. Whenever fatty says "I believe" you know it's complete bollox.

Amazed you have not worked it out at least 1 serial flouncer who has returned, Belgianmum certainly has

[Belgianmum]

	Quote:	Full Circle
	I think people are upset about it because these "few hundred boat people" (677 last week alone) are supposedly seeking refuge from ... France

Understandable, I mean who in their right mind would want to live in France?

[John William]

Gosh is it really only a tad over four months before the end of the Transition Period and the final chapter of Brexit ? of course
this is all against the ever present fear of us all succumbing to the Covid pandemic while keeping our distance at all times
and yet the UK - EU trade talks are nearing yet another cliff edge - No Deal Trade talks just in time for Christmas
and maybe another lockdown in our fallout shelters against the 2nd wave of Covid 19.

So lots to look forward to - Protect and Survive !!

Protect and Survive, Covid-19 and No Deal WTO rules fallout edition

[TonyClifton]

A few footnotes in the ongoing Brexit saga regarding trade:

Big Phil HoGONE , Irish EU Trade Commissioner has had to resign following Covid breaches in his home country. I think a few of our more nationalistic Irish friends were really hoping he would turn the screws on the UK so it's a minor blow to their personal ambitions however it doesn't really change anything on the big picture.

The UK have meanwhile appointed former Australian PM and unapologetic anglophile Tony Abbott as a Trade Envoy. This has the potential to be a very canny appointment, if Mr Abbott's ego doesn't get in the way!

[CodPeace]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The UK have meanwhile appointed former Australian PM and unapologetic anglophile Tony Abbott as a Trade Envoy. This has the potential to be a very canny appointment, if Mr Abbott's ego doesn't get in the way!

I've never met an Aussie (or a Kiwi or South African for that matter) who wasn't a bit brash.

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The UK have meanwhile appointed former Australian PM and unapologetic anglophile Tony Abbott as a Trade Envoy. This has the potential to be a very canny appointment, if Mr Abbott's ego doesn't get in the way!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa

Aaaaah, I enjoyed that. It's going to be so much fun watching Tony barging around like a bull in a china shop! Trust me, getting fired, sorry, resigning for breaches of COVID lockdown regulations is nothing compared to whatever Il Duce, Antonio Abbott, will be sacked for.