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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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You meant the NHS badly funded, badly managed by the Conservative Party?


The point about airport queues- is that it is currently Brexiters in the UK, who voted for it- who are not up in arms and going berserk in the tabloid Press- about queues being longer about Brexit.


Gald to see at least one woman Brexiter of my generation has put her hands up and resigned from the Conservative Party re the destruction of ariculture and food standards, and destuction of UK farming. Good for you, Prue Leith.


As for Johnson, we now now clearly that he has been cooking up the books with Trump- and deliberately delayed any Deal with EU until after the election. And that he intends to go for No Deal immediately if Trump wins- selling said NHS and agriculture standards wholesale to Trump- in return for what?!? Just beyond appalling - no words, really.
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As for Johnson, we now now clearly that he has been cooking up the books with Trump- and deliberately delayed any Deal with EU until after the election. And that he intends to go for No Deal immediately if Trump wins- selling said NHS and agriculture standards wholesale to Trump- in return for what?!? Just beyond appalling - no words, really.
Yes Britain could be faced with a fate worst than death, if such an event occurs from the
1st January 2021, namely sanctions imposed by the likes of Jamie Oliver and Greta Thunberg !!

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You meant the NHS badly funded, badly managed by the Conservative Party?


The point about airport queues- is that it is currently Brexiters in the UK, who voted for it- who are not up in arms and going berserk in the tabloid Press- about queues being longer about Brexit.


Gald to see at least one woman Brexiter of my generation has put her hands up and resigned from the Conservative Party re the destruction of ariculture and food standards, and destuction of UK farming. Good for you, Prue Leith.


As for Johnson, we now now clearly that he has been cooking up the books with Trump- and deliberately delayed any Deal with EU until after the election. And that he intends to go for No Deal immediately if Trump wins- selling said NHS and agriculture standards wholesale to Trump- in return for what?!? Just beyond appalling - no words, really.
I suspect Boris will roll over at the last minute and give the EU everything, it would not be the first time he changed sides.

If Trump is not reelected it will just push Boris more into such concessions.
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You meant the NHS badly funded, badly managed by the Conservative Party?
The NHS is bad period. 40% of NHS beds were empty at the peak of the Covid pandemic in the spring. This pandemic has proven in my eyes something that I've suspected for a long time, that the NHS isn't there to serve people, people are there to serve the NHS. The bovine way people were turning out every Thursday evening to clap for it, rather like the adhan, and praise it is completely lost on me
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Nightingale hospitals had nothing to do with the NHS, but with the Government. And the stupidity of it all, is that they built the 'beds' but didn't have the staff to wo/man them anyhow. Massive, ridiculous waste indeed.
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The government has quietly reduced the £35,800 minimum salary for migrants to settle in the UK by almost 30%, it has emerged.

Migrants on salaries of £20,480 but with enough points under Boris Johnson’s new Australian-style immigration system to qualify for jobs where there is a shortage of workers will also be entitled to settle after six years and become citizens.
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Its to attract more migrant health care workers for the NHS to the UK

whose starting salaries are way below the £35,800 minimum salary for migrants to settle in the UK.
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Old 27.10.2020, 23:53
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...I can't believe that this thread have nearly 1 million views on a forum...
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And still no Brexit...we're sick of it
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When reflecting on the British governments vaunted Australian style 'points based system'
to attract the best and the brightest to the UK ( namely those who can boast University
degrees or better to their name ) after closing the doors to EU citizens with lower
or questionable academic achievements and qualifications.

That they say British business is crying out for post Brexit.

You've got to laugh when the 'real skills British business is crying out for'
are like those that can ensure food gets on British dinner tables like meat processing workers.

As usual it looks like 'the real skills shortages' in post Brexit Britain are in jobs that most
Brits reckon are beneath them again !!

BBC News - Shortage of EU Poultry workers could hit Christmas dinner
The complaints about Preti Patels, Australian based points system not attracting the right type
of 'hard working EU citizens' for those jobs the average Brit considers 'too much hard work'
continues to make the headlines in Britain.
Yes the British government are getting desperate and are resorting to evoking the Brexiteers
'wartime spirit' by launching A Dig for Victory fit in a post-Brexit Britain campaign that they
have dubbed 'Pick for Britain' to encourage more Brit's to get their hands dirty for a change
and bring in the harvest.

BBC News - UK farmers need thousends of foreign workers next summer

I'm sure the following video will stir fond memories of days of yore and many rousing wartime
speeches by Sir Winston Churchill for Jacob Rees-Mogg and his congregation in the ERG;
just the ticket for putting the millennials in their place with this TV advert being
broadcast on prime time TV.

Dig for Victory revamped as Pick for Britain recruitment video

Yes it's enough to bring tears to your eyes.
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Old 28.10.2020, 08:59
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And still no Brexit...we're sick of it
Amazing the number of people who don’t know it happen....

The same people who seem to think spending four plus years on trying to get a major trade deal is unusual, where as the norm is more like seven years plus...
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where as the norm is more like seven years plus...
Only if the EU is involved!
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The complaints about Preti Patels, Australian based points system not attracting the right type
of 'hard working EU citizens' for those jobs the average Brit considers 'too much hard work'
continues to make the headlines in Britain.
Yes the British government are getting desperate and are resorting to evoking the Brexiteers
'wartime spirit' by launching A Dig for Victory fit for a post-Brexit Britain campaign that they
have dubbed 'Pick for Britain' to encourage more Brit's to get their hands dirty for a change
and bring in the harvest.

BBC News - UK farmers need thousends of foreign workers next summer

I'm sure the following video will stir fond memories of days of yore and many rousing wartime
speeches by Sir Winston Churchill for Jacob Rees-Mogg and his congregation in the ERG;
just the ticket for putting the millennials in their place with this TV advert being
broadcast on prime time TV.

Dig for Victory revamped as Pick for Britain recruitment video

Yes it's enough to bring tears to your eyes.
Did The Two Ronnies predict a return to 'the olden days' in post-Brexit Britain ??

The Two Ronnies - Hovis advert
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Old 28.10.2020, 10:40
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Only if the EU is involved!

Look at the WTO stats....
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I'm sure the following video will stir fond memories of days of yore and many rousing wartime speeches by Sir Winston Churchill for Jacob Rees-Mogg and his congregation in the ERG;
just the ticket for putting the millennials in their place with this TV advert being
broadcast on prime time TV.
Do most millennials even watch prime time TV? They'd be better off buying some youtube advertising or releasing a dramatisation of it for Netflix.
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As I see it not many people will want to work in UK in the future, only those who already built a life there are concerned by Brexit. The rest of the EU citizens don't give a shite anymore. I feel sorry for the people that are blocked there because of jobs, family etc, but that's life....it was their choice. I don't want EU to compromise for the idiots that chose to immigrate there.
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Totally get you here. But remember, only 52% of those who voted (so not of the population) voted for Brexit- a Brexit with a great Deal, easy peasy, lots more money for the NHS- they were told it would protect their jobs, increase their salaries, and so much more. 10s of 1000s of those, in the 70+ age group have now dies, and 10s of 1000s of young people who want to be part of Europe and all the opportunities it affords them, are now able to vote. Covid has even 'helped out' in this matter.


Even Rees Mogg has admitted that if there was a vote now, it would never pass as people now realise the massive cost to all and that instead of being free and independent, we will either be totally beholden to Trump, as planned- or totally up s*t creek, having to accept any Deal, at any cost, from EU who will then hold all the cards. A deal much much worse that being in the EU, a Deal much worse than Mrs May's Deal, and a Deal even worse than the one Johnson pretended to negotiate- with fingers crossed in the back, knowing he had no intention whatsoever of going through with it, as he was going to jump on Trump's lap. The UK will end up in a vast mess.


But I agree with you- the EU should just walk away. They tried, by Gaed they tried- Barnier has the patience of a Saint- but enough.
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As I see it not many people will want to work in UK in the future, only those who already built a life there are concerned by Brexit. The rest of the EU citizens don't give a shite anymore. I feel sorry for the people that are blocked there because of jobs, family etc, but that's life....it was their choice. I don't want EU to compromise for the idiots that chose to immigrate there.
There are people literally risking their lives at the moment crossing the English Channel in inflatable boats in order to make it into the UK
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There are people literally risking their lives at the moment crossing the English Channel in inflatable boats in order to make it into the UK
Exactly the sort of immigrants the UK has been hoping to attract.
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Remember the outrage in April 2016 when Obama said UK would be at the back of the queue for a trade deal.
Now four and a half years later there is still no sign of a US deal.
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