The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[JackieH]

some definitely could do with some, sure.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The thing is, most won't be needed soon due to A.I.

"Soon"...

Like fully autonomous cars, eh? It will take decades. Many decades.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The thing is, most won't be needed soon due to A.I.

Fundsmith have about £900 million under management per employee, I guess not all firms are as efficient. The advantage of being just 10 years old & not being bloated.

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Do you understand that will require the Tories to repeal the withdrawal bill? The Irish foreign minister has already say it is unacceptable to them.

Well. That will happen in good time. If we don't get a decent deal, it won't. The Tories are quite happy to sell out the unionists to Eire and the EU, but its at a price.

Ultimately, its in Ireland's interest that the UK economy does ok given the trade between the two countries - and I'm sure they want the deal to be decent too.

[RufusB]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	The thing is, most won't be needed soon due to A.I.

In banking and finance? The ultimate bastion of privileged white men?

[JackieH]

Barack Obama could become Joe Biden's UK ambassador in awkward move for Boris Johnson



oh YES, please. He would run rings around Johnson, Gove, Raab - all of them. Class act- and he has a few axes to grind too.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	RufusB
	In banking and finance? The ultimate bastion of privileged white men?

Plenty of women traders, plenty of Indian traders. Even UBS employed Kweku Adoboli, he was not white & lost the UBS $2 billion. You have to be very good to succeed, sex or colour is irrelevant.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	JackieH
	Barack Obama could become Joe Biden's UK ambassador in awkward move for Boris Johnson oh YES, please. He would run rings around Johnson, Gove, Raab - all of them. Class act- and he has a few axes to grind too.

You are assuming Johnson will sign a bad deal.

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	JackieH
	Barack Obama could become Joe Biden's UK ambassador in awkward move for Boris Johnson oh YES, please. He would run rings around Johnson, Gove, Raab - all of them. Class act- and he has a few axes to grind too.

The worst type of Remainers are those that wish ill on their own country because they still can't accept the result.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	JackieH
	Barack Obama could become Joe Biden's UK ambassador in awkward move for Boris Johnson oh YES, please. He would run rings around Johnson, Gove, Raab - all of them. Class act- and he has a few axes to grind too.

I don't think that Obama will behave like such a 3 year old. Would be an excellent choice in the Brexit process.

[RufusB]

	Quote:	JackieH
	Barack Obama could become Joe Biden's UK ambassador in awkward move for Boris Johnson oh YES, please. He would run rings around Johnson, Gove, Raab - all of them. Class act- and he has a few axes to grind too.

That would be brilliant.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Plenty of women traders, plenty of Indian traders. Even UBS employed Kweku Adoboli, he was not white & lost the UBS $2 billion. You have to be very good to succeed, sex or colour is irrelevant.

Ah but how many of the wimmins and Asian folk are in charge?

Again, you miss the point.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	RufusB
	Ah but how many of the wimmins and Asian folk are in charge? Again, you miss the point.

I know when I have scanned the names of new partners at Goldman Sachs there is a good mix.

You are trying to make a non existent point, if you fail at you choice of career you only have yourself to blame. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen

[TonyClifton]

So after all that, Boris Johnson was the first European leader to speak with President Elect Biden. The vast majority of main steam media analysis gets it spectacularly wrong once again

[marton]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	So after all that, Boris Johnson was the first European leader to speak with President Elect Biden. The vast majority of main steam media analysis gets it spectacularly wrong once again

Biden spoke with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday and reportedly spoke with French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Tuesday.

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	marton
	Biden spoke with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Monday and reportedly spoke with French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel and British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Tuesday.

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	Mr Biden called the PM ahead of the leaders of other major European countries.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54892505

[marton]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Quote: Mr Biden called the PM ahead of the leaders of other major European countries. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54892505

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	Biden chatted with the leaders of the U.K., Ireland, Germany and France — although his team declined to comment on the order of the calls.

https://www.politico.eu/article/bori...-conversation/

[JackieH]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The worst type of Remainers are those that wish ill on their own country because they still can't accept the result.

The result was indeed hard to take, especially with such a tiny majority.


But currently, au contraire- many true Conservatives are now turning against the appalling behaviour and the corruption of Johnson's Government.



As John Major says:


"Brexit was sold to our electors on false premises. Promises made will not – indeed, cannot – be kept. To leave the EU – to separate ourselves from our neighbours – was sold as 'regaining sovereignty', but it is, and will prove to be, a long and painful ball and chain on our national wellbeing."After the Referendum, Brexiteers did not even bother to argue the merits of their case – why should they? – it was 'the will of the people'. And once 'the will of the people' was asserted as a repeated mantra – and the Brexit leaders claimed to speak for all 'the people' – any opposition to Brexit became illegitimate, and any contrary view was howled down."
He continued: "'Free speech for those who supported remaining in the EU came at a price. They were pilloried as 'Remoaners': sticking to long-held principles and policies, and warning of clear dangers ahead was depicted as 'sour grapes by sore losers'.
"Even judges were denounced as 'Enemies of the People' for ruling on a point of law. Opponents of Brexit were cowed, and free speech was curtailed. It was shameful. No democracy should find itself in such a position.
"Overseas, the outcome of the referendum delighted our enemies and dismayed our friends. As our nation voted against its history and its self-interest, a bemused world looked on, wondering why we had chosen to become poorer and less influential."
And recounting some of the promises told by Boris Johnson and the Vote Leave camp, he said: "Brexit was sold to the nation as a win-win situation. It is not.
"We were promised we would stay in the Single Market. We have not. We were told trade with the EU would be frictionless. It will not be.
"We were promised we would save billions in payments to the European Union: a bus was driven around the country telling us so. Not so: Brexit is costing billions – not saving them.'


add Breaking the International Treaty Johnson and the Government only signed a couple of months ago- + Covid. Obama would certainly add some gravitas and some common sense to the proceedings- which will be a massive help for the UK.

[RufusB]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	I know when I have scanned the names of new partners at Goldman Sachs there is a good mix. You are trying to make a non existent point, if you fail at you choice of career you only have yourself to blame. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen

No. The point is very much in existence. You just don't/can't/won't see the gender /race issue because you are a privileged white male. It's not censure, it's fact. The likelihood that you will likely now deny that privilege is part of the issue. Honestly it's practically meta.

Anyway, my initial comment was regarding your AI assertion. Which is ludicrous. The WWMs (wealthy white males) in charge won't want to let go.

[RufusB]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	So after all that, Boris Johnson was the first European leader to speak with President Elect Biden.

And told him a load of twaddle about Brexit will in no way adversely affect the GFA...

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	The worst type of Remainers are those that wish ill on their own country because they still can't accept the result.

When JackieH has specifically named 'Johnson, Gove, Raab - all of them', in what parallel universe does that constitute wishing ill on your own country? A government is not a country. Capiche?!!