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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Fell....

Probably can't be arsed with the boy's network. My friend's daughter must be bucking the trend then. Partner before 30.
Not at Slaughter & May, so very very different.
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Not at Slaughter & May, so very very different.
Two Slaughter and May partners have topped the list of female corporate lawyers acting on the highest value of deals in the Europe, Middle East and Africa (EMEA) region during 2019.

Slaughters partners Lisa Wright and Victoria MacDuff came in first and second place respectively in the list.
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Probably can't be arsed with the boy's network. My friend's daughter must be bucking the trend then. Partner before 30.
In a city law firm?? Not a regional outfit?? If it is we are talking about high 6 figures to (more likely) 7 figures. Slaughters profit per equity partner is c. £3M for example.

It was either a very long time ago (anyone over c. 45-50 is extremely fortunate compared to people coming through now - its a completely different world)

or she has friends in very high places

or (most likely) its a fake partnership - lots of law "partners" are not infact not partners in the business at all. This is usually referred to as being a "salary partner". Even making a salary partnership before 30 is still very impressive, but its not the same thing as being an equity partner. I've known a couple of salary partners who got made up just before 35, but below 30 is very quick. Salary partners would typically earn a bit more than a senior associate, but nowhere near an equity partner.

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Slaughters partners Lisa Wright and Victoria MacDuff came in first and second place respectively in the list.
I was replying SPECIFICALLY about a friends daughter becoming a partner before 30.

Slaughter & May earns the highest fees, their partners have the highest earnings on average. Therefore it comes as no surprise that a female corporate lawyer (highest fee earners in Slaughter & May) working at Slaughter & May will act on the highest value of deals. Thats what Slaughter & May does.They work very long hours often 7 days a week.
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I was replying SPECIFICALLY about a friends daughter becoming a partner before 30.

Slaughter & May earns the highest fees, their partners have the highest earnings on average. Therefore it comes as no surprise that a female corporate lawyer (highest fee earners in Slaughter & May) working at Slaughter & May will act on the highest value of deals. Thats what Slaughter & May does.They work very long hours often 7 days a week.
TBH Slaughters are a bit old fashioned and conservative these days.

NQs earn (and charge) a lot more in US firms (K and L etc.), which are slowly taking over. I've seen people under 30 at a billable rate of pushing $1000 / hour (and billing 8 hours a day minimum!)
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In a city law firm?? Not a regional outfit?? If it is we are talking about high 6 figures to (more likely) 7 figures. Slaughters profit per equity partner is c. £3M for example.

It was either a very long time ago (anyone over c. 45-50 is extremely fortunate compared to people coming through now - its a completely different world)

or she has friends in very high places

or (most likely) its a fake partnership - lots of law "partners" are not infact not partners in the business at all. This is usually referred to as being a "salary partner". Even making a salary partnership before 30 is still very impressive, but its not the same thing as being an equity partner. I've known a couple of salary partners who got made up just before 35, but below 30 is very quick. Salary partners would typically earn a bit more than a senior associate, but nowhere near an equity partner.
All I know is that she works in Manc and he mum makes cracking Singapore Slings.
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Old 21.11.2020, 13:03
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So Priti 'nasty' Patel has proved to be the latest of Boris Johnson's growing band of British Untouchables
in the Cabinet.

BBC News - Boris johnson asked for Patel report to be palatable, source claims
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So Priti 'nasty' Patel has proved to be the latest of Boris Johnson's growing band of British Untouchables
in the Cabinet.

BBC News - Boris johnson asked for Patel report to be palatable, source claims

Priti is just a tough manager, exactly what is needed in the home office, who seem to specialise in hindering govt. policy, not delivering it.
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Old 21.11.2020, 13:09
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Priti is just a tough manager, exactly what is needed in the home office, who seem to specialise in hindering govt. policy, not delivering it.

There is a very big difference between being a tough manager and a pig ignorant bully. The people of the UK deserve better than a thug.
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There is a very big difference between being a tough manager and a pig ignorant bully. The people of the UK deserve better than a thug.
What the people of the UK want is strong, clear and unambiguous leadership, an effective govt. and value for money for the taxes they pay.
Priti giving it to someone on the nose will be lauded by the people of the UK.
The only people who want to make a song and dance about it are the left wing/anti-tory media, and the awakened.
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What the people of the UK want is strong, clear and unambiguous leadership, an effective govt. and value for money for the taxes they pay.
Priti giving it to someone on the nose will be lauded by the people of the UK.
The only people who want to make a song and dance about it are the left wing/anti-tory media, and the awakened.
Time to call this crap out for what it is. There is no leadership, no effective government and the tax payers money is squandered on a daily basis. World beating systems turn to a farce, prosperous trade deals turn to survival mode, law and order turns to bullying... the only question remaining is just how much crap you are willing to swallow and defend while you are doing so.
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Time to call this crap out for what it is. There is no leadership, no effective government and the tax payers money is squandered on a daily basis......
Well I did say it was what they wanted, I didn't say it was what they had.
Through the blizzard of anti-government propaganda, it's difficult to get a true grasp on reality.
For sure, good news doesn't sell.
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BS!
I know three people who've witnessed how she behaves first hand. All three, independent of each other, say it was shocking behaviour, the likes of which they've not witnessed from a government minister in recent decades, and they've seen it on more than one occasion. A fourth person, who's been a very good friend for over 20yrs and has also witnessed her behaviour but not to the extent of the other three, and backs that up. He worked and socialised with government ministers for several years and says they all know what she's like and find it "distasteful", so you can have your opinion all day long. People I know and trust say "she's a nasty piece of work".
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Great, so No Deal with EU, No Deal with USA, No deal with Canada
A roll over trade deal has now been signed with Canada with a view to agreeing a better, more tailor made agreement in the near future.

An agreement with the EU also very likely to be arranged in the coming weeks, no need to worry!
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A roll over trade deal has now been signed with Canada with a view to agreeing a better, more tailor made agreement in the near future.

An agreement with the EU also very likely to be arranged in the coming weeks, no need to worry!
So how hard is it to make an agreement that basically maintains the status quo? I seriously doubt Canada would make concessions to the UK that they haven’t yet made to the EU.

It isn’t as good as being in the EU, as transhipments will be limited but it is certainly better than nothing.
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A roll over trade deal has now been signed with Canada with a view to agreeing a better, more tailor made agreement in the near future.

An agreement with the EU also very likely to be arranged in the coming weeks, no need to worry!
Perhaps you should look at the woes arising in British ports TC, as the port of Felixstowe in Suffolk is in chaos
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What the people of the UK want is strong, clear and unambiguous leadership, an effective govt. and value for money for the taxes they pay.
Priti giving it to someone on the nose will be lauded by the people of the UK.
The only people who want to make a song and dance about it are the left wing/anti-tory media, and the awakened.
Nope. And no. Your first sentence is true though

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Time to call this crap out for what it is. There is no leadership, no effective government and the tax payers money is squandered on a daily basis. World beating systems turn to a farce, prosperous trade deals turn to survival mode, law and order turns to bullying... the only question remaining is just how much crap you are willing to swallow and defend while you are doing so.
Sadly a whole lot of folk seem to be prepared to swallow far too much.

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Well I did say it was what they wanted, I didn't say it was what they had.
Through the blizzard of anti-government propaganda, it's difficult to get a true grasp on reality.
For sure, good news doesn't sell.
Have a nice weekend.
Eh? Not sure you have a firm grip on the UK reality.
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Perhaps you should look at the woes arising in British ports TC, as the port of Felixstowe in Suffolk is in chaos
now before the transition period ends already.

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BBC News - Felixstowe Port in chaos as Christmas and Brexit loom

BBC News - Port troubles leave UK bookseller with no books
If there is significant disruption at UK ports then the blame will lie solely with the UK government. Four and a half years they'll have had to prepare so they should have zero sympathy if this happens.

That said, the stories you've posted do seem to be of the anti-Brexit BBC fear mongering category that we've grown so used to over the past four years. A publisher doesn't have books, come on!

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So how hard is it to make an agreement that basically maintains the status quo? I seriously doubt Canada would make concessions to the UK that they haven’t yet made to the EU.

It isn’t as good as being in the EU, as transhipments will be limited but it is certainly better than nothing.
You should consider this in the context of what has been said over the past 4 years, "the UK can't sign rollover agreements with X, Y or Z" followed by "well that was easy" or "well it's not worth that much anyway" when the agreement does get signed. It's an ongoing narrative.

Both Canada and the UK have specifically said they wish to agree a more ambitious deal, it's not about "concessions" rather something that is in benefit to both countries. The UK has already concluded such a deal with Japan.
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