View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen? |
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
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I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
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11.12.2020, 18:14
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I think Monday will be the announcement.
Boris cannot agree to foreign fishing boats having the right to fish UK waters though.
They can be allowed to (license, agreement etc) but he can't cede power over UK waters to the EU.
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11.12.2020, 18:14
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Why is no agreement possible? Both sides want a trade deal, but the eu also want to fish in British waters. I'm no fan of bred it but this is not a balanced set of demands, the eu are demanding more? | | | | | As bowlie said: | Quote: | |  | | | Boris does not want an agreement. | | | | | | This user would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
11.12.2020, 18:16
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | As bowlie said: | | | | | Why? That's a broad statement to make without some kind of backup statement or evidence? Perhaps the eu does not want a deal..
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11.12.2020, 18:19
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | Are we back on dick pics again? In this thread, now?  | | | | | You started it, then upped it!
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11.12.2020, 18:38
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Why? That's a broad statement to make without some kind of backup statement or evidence? Perhaps the eu does not want a deal.. | | | | | That is my opinion. Mr Johnson couldn’t give a dickie bird about what is good for the average British resident, he only gives a [expletive deleted] about what he perceives is good for himself.
And because that is what Dominic has told him to do.
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11.12.2020, 19:01
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | So you won't be able to drive from NI to ROI after 1.1.2021? | | | | |
That reminds me of the Swine Flu of 2009. Some of the remote West Coast Irish Farmers were patrolling the roads to stop NI and other's driving through their area.
Think it was called the "human barge wire fence".
I think the news crew came down from Dublin, but could not understand the brogue accident, so hardly reached the wider news.
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11.12.2020, 19:06
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Why do you think Boris was served Pavlova for dessert? (and fish for mains) | | | | |
The fish supper humoured me, at least one of the newspapers had photos of the three courses, lightened the news story.
Pavlova always reminds me of my 21st in East Balmain, Sydney, back in Gough Whitlam and Nixon days.
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11.12.2020, 19:07
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Care to explain what you mean here, please.
What is a 'Eurocrat'? and why are they 'repulsive'. Would love to know, thanks. | | | | | Here you go clicky clicky
I find almost all politicians repulsive, it was a drive by post. Don't worry too much | 
11.12.2020, 19:11
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Of course, but no-one would have voted for it, well just a very small minority- had they told the truth.  | | | | | Seems pretty reasonable in the final hours for the talks to move to between the leaders rather than the negotiators. TBH it is time they were sidelined ....
It does sound like his crap joke was ill advised. But it was clearly lighthearted not nasty and its not half as rude as some of the comments I have received from remainers / rejoiners. And I am never ever rude back. Apart from once.
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11.12.2020, 19:15
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I think Monday will be the announcement.
Boris cannot agree to foreign fishing boats having the right to fish UK waters though.
They can be allowed to (license, agreement etc) but he can't cede power over UK waters to the EU. | | | | | He probably could agree to that - but not to EU judges judging the actions of the UK state. Does anybody think its acceptable to treat another country like that? Like you own it?
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11.12.2020, 19:33
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | He probably could agree to that - but not to EU judges judging the actions of the UK state. Does anybody think its acceptable to treat another country like that? Like you own it? | | | | | Could you explain that to me please? Under which circumstances would the ECJ have a role in actions of the UK government? Thank you.
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11.12.2020, 20:09
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Ursula Von der Leihen explained today very clearly why this would not be the case.
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11.12.2020, 20:23
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | He probably could agree to that - but not to EU judges judging the actions of the UK state. Does anybody think its acceptable to treat another country like that? Like you own it? | | | | |
The EU requirements for access to the single market are no different to the requirements to trade under WTO terms in that , neither for instance allow a country to unfairly subsidise their industry to the disadvantage of the country they trade with.
And frankly expecting an country to allow you act in a way that will disadvantage them in their own market is complete nonsense. It simply will not happen.
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11.12.2020, 20:41
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | That is my opinion. Mr Johnson couldn’t give a dickie bird about what is good for the average British resident, he only gives a [expletive deleted] about what he perceives is good for himself.
And because that is what Dominic has told him to do. | | | | | OK, so it's clear thanks - it's not based on fact it's just a bitter personal opinion of someone you don't like.
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11.12.2020, 21:39
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | That is my opinion. Mr Johnson couldn’t give a dickie bird about what is good for the average British resident, he only gives a [expletive deleted] about what he perceives is good for himself.
And because that is what Dominic has told him to do. | | | | | The ERG mainly.
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11.12.2020, 21:41
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | So you won't be able to drive from NI to ROI after 1.1.2021? | | | | |
Subject to whatever lockdown restrictions are in place at the time of course. This is basic stuff go read up on the CTA and the GFA, the Ireland Act of 1949 (UK) and Republic of Ireland Act 1948(Ireland).
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11.12.2020, 22:16
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11.12.2020, 23:53
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Why is no agreement possible? Both sides want a trade deal, but the eu also want to fish in British waters. I'm no fan of bred it but this is not a balanced set of demands, the eu are demanding more? | | | | | The elephant in this room is that mostly the British public do not like the fish that live in British waters so British catches are often turned into animal feed or whatever.
72% of catches in British water are Mackerel.
Fish like Cod, Haddock, shrimps and prawns are mostly imported or caught in non-British waters.
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12.12.2020, 20:14
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Oh dear oh dear, to all those saying I live in Switzerland so it won’t affect me... https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politic...om-uk/46216098 | 
12.12.2020, 20:26
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | This was already discussed in depth! It will of course affect anyone who wants to deal with the U.K. in anyway.
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