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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Well deserved in what way? That the UK had the temerity to want to leave the EU?!

Disagreeing with Brexit is perfectly fine, as is disliking the current government. Hoping that the country suffers as a result, or for the breakup of the union though is just mean spirited and nasty. The worst type of Remainers want this, it's beyond logic to have such spiteful feelings to ones own country.
Its especially rude for non-UK folk to be saying this. I wouldn't dream of commenting in other countries affairs in such a mean spirited way.
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Currently over 4,000,000 EU nationals have applied for the EU settlement scheme to stay in the UK, including over 750,000 Poles.

Not bad for a country that's apparently finished.
I can see why. The UK is a pretty great place to live.
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

followed Brexit for the last 4 years intensely, guardian, telegraph, reuters to try to get a clear picture
What I find extremely painful is that the english people that i know and love as i have lived in Newcastle, London and Hereford were being lied to and manipulated by a privileged upperclass into a situation by where the so called upperclass even makes money on the whole thing but all the pain will be felt by the common people
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Currently over 4,000,000 EU nationals have applied for the EU settlement scheme to stay in the UK, including over 750,000 Poles.

Not bad for a country that's apparently finished.

Indeed,plenty of people cant see the future well,and of course,lets see how many of those 4 million,will stay when the UK economy thanks.
Have you seen the value of the pound now?
And you forget also,how poor the average Pole in Poland is....
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Old 15.12.2020, 14:21
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followed Brexit for the last 4 years intensely, guardian, telegraph, reuters to try to get a clear picture
What I find extremely painful is that the english people that i know and love as i have lived in Newcastle, London and Hereford were being lied to and manipulated by a privileged upperclass into a situation by where the so called upperclass even makes money on the whole thing but all the pain will be felt by the common people
Yep. That pretty much sums it up and has been said here before. That's the kicker. Lots of folk unwilling to see / accept that truth, however. They bought the lies. We'll all suffer the consequences. It's Boris' Light Brigade.
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Its especially rude for non-UK folk to be saying this. I wouldn't dream of commenting in other countries affairs in such a mean spirited way.

Do you know how many non UK folks,have been screwed for decades or centuries by those "nice" UK folks?
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I can see why. The UK is a pretty great place to live.

Not really,not for European standards,lived there 6 months.
Much preffer Ireland,for example,if you want something similar.
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You dont need to tell me about what Germany did,im jewish,and if you have moved before 1939,nothing of that sorth would have happened,but you did nothing, for your own selfish interests ,and blocked jewish refugees from arriving in the land of Israel.In fact,when Poland got invaded in 1939,you did nothing,and broke another pact.
The French,Spanish and Dutch,dont go around giving moralizing diatribes.
Ummm what?

The UK declared war on Germany within 48 hours of Poland being invaded. And bankrupted itself to save Europe (again) only to see it frozen out of post WW2 Europe thanks the almost ludicrous arrogance of General de Gaulle.

You are pretty clearly a troll.
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Old 15.12.2020, 14:25
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Not really,not for European standards,lived there 6 months.
Much preffer Ireland,for example,if you want something similar.
In your opinion.

I much prefer it here. And I've lived here longer than 6 months. I did more than 6 months in CH too. IMO UK has lots of places beat. But it will very much depend upon the criteria used/personal priorities.
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Ummm what?

The UK declared war on Germany within 48 hours of Poland being invaded. And bankrupted itself to save Europe (again) only to see it frozen out of post WW2 Europe thanks the almost ludicrous arrogance of General de Gaulle.

You are pretty clearly a troll.

Yes,and sat in their lines without moving,same as the French,left Poland to fend for herself againts the Germans.
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In your opinion.

I much prefer it here. And I've lived here longer than 6 months. I did more than 6 months in CH too. IMO UK has lots of places beat. But it will very much depend upon the criteria used.

Of course its my opinion,I speak for myself,not for other people,im not schyzofrenic.You should check per capita income in UK,and Ireland.

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Ah well at least it gives the world a good laugh, hey

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/bre...-clown-6754028
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Yes,and sat in their lines without moving,same as the French,left Poland to fend for herself againts the Germans.
Both sides were stalemate for a long time. Not sure why you're dragging WW2 into this unless you're mega bored and trying to be provocative. Haven't you watched much Dad's Army?
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Of course its my opinion,I speak for myself,not for other people,im not schyzofrenic.You should check per capita income in UK,and Ireland.
Why? I don't want to live in Ireland.
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Ah well at least it gives the world a good laugh, hey

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/bre...-clown-6754028
I'm surprised it's taken this long. He's a joke. And Not a good one.
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Yes,and sat in their lines without moving,same as the French,left Poland to fend for herself againts the Germans.
So you are now blaming the UK for the Magenot line and failing to protect the Ardennes from Blitzkrieg.

That's historical revisionism....

The French scouts actually spotted the Germans making their way through the forest very slowly, causing huge congestion, completely vulnerable to arial assault. The French General (forget which one), ignored his own scouts because he believed the Ardennes was impassible. If he'd bombed the hell out of the Germans the war probably would have been over much, much quicker.

So the Germans pincer movement was 100% the fault of the French, not the British expeditionary army.
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Depends on how you see it


Britain did declare war but essentially did not do much after that


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War
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Both sides were stalemate for a long time. Not sure why you're dragging WW2 into this unless you're mega bored and trying to be provocative. Haven't you watched much Dad's Army?
Somebody mentioned the "valiant" exploits of UK in ww2,and I gave him a dose of reality.
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I can see why. The UK is a pretty great place to live.
It certainly was - lived there for just under 40 years- made it my Home, loved it - but not sure about the future, tragically. Everything I truly loved and admired has gone and going. Let's hope ... but can't see myself returning there to live now, sorry.
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i have lived in Newcastle, London and Hereford were being lied to and manipulated by a privileged upperclass into a situation by where the so called upperclass even makes money on the whole thing but all the pain will be felt by the common people
I never get this argument, the whole of Europe has seen rising inequality aggravated by poor growth since 2008 (the UK actually being the exception). This harms the common people most. Almost the entire establishment backed Remain both at home and abroad, the Tory government at the time, the CBI, IMF etc.

Turbulent economic times always hurt those least well of worst (as we're seeing now with Covid), but let's not pretend that things were are so great for them because of the EU.
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