The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	Polymath
	I just hope there's no repeat of The Troubles which I only have vague memories of. I'm British myself but moved to Switzerland from Ireland having lived there for seven years. Beautiful country with beautiful people. I consider it my adopted homeland.

Literally the only thing that matters in NI is peace. Luckily both GB and ROI are grown ups and will do anything to preserve it.

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	JackieH
	In the meantime, a few reminders of the realities of this 'Deal' https://fb.watch/2FY1kz9uv4/

You are Swiss - would you like your country to join the EU?

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	Harness
	Brexit bill passed, 521 for, 73 against. Democracy triumphs once more.

Lib Dens voted for no deal.

[Castro]

	Quote:	HickvonFrick
	Lib Dens voted for no deal.

They had the luxury of voting against the awful exit deal in the full knowledge that Labour and the Conservatives would save them from No Deal.
We're in the thick of it so we know all the machinations and manoeuvrings that got us here, but history won't be so kind to Labour if this all goes t*ts up. The LibDems and SNP on the other hand will look prophetic.

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	Castro
	They had the luxury of voting against the awful exit deal in the full knowledge that Labour and the Conservatives would save them from No Deal. We're in the thick of it so we know all the machinations and manoeuvrings that got us here, but history won't be so kind to Labour if this all goes t*ts up. The LibDems and SNP on the other hand will look prophetic.

Well you have a kinder opinion than my good friend from school who worked for the Liberals in Westminster until the 2015 bloodbath election - "Ridiculous. Fortunately no one will hear our position".

Hes up for election on the county council in a "red wall" seat - will probably win despite the national party.

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	Castro
	They had the luxury of voting against the awful exit deal in the full knowledge that Labour and the Conservatives would save them from No Deal. We're in the thick of it so we know all the machinations and manoeuvrings that got us here, but history won't be so kind to Labour if this all goes t*ts up. The LibDems and SNP on the other hand will look prophetic.

Just imagine if the Lib Dems, SNP, Gina Miller and the like hadn’t over played their hand trying to stop Brexit all together, tomorrow we could have been entering into Mrs May’s “softer” (and for the Brexiteers far worse) form of Brexit. Their behaviour in the last Parliament ensured the outcome we now have! History won’t be kind to them.

[Harness]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	You were expecting the Queen's prerogative to be used to interfere with a parliamentary decision???? It's happened in the past but still.....

Happy to see Labour finally getting their act together.

[marton]

	Quote:	HickvonFrick
	You are Swiss - would you like your country to join the EU?

For all practical purposes, Switzerland is part of the EU.
The bilateral treaties contain largely the same content as the EEA treaties, making Switzerland a virtual member of the EEA.
Most EU law applies universally throughout the EU, the EEA, and Switzerland, providing most of the conditions of the free movement of people, goods, services, and capital that apply to the member states.
Switzerland pays into the EU budget and is a member of Schengen.

You need a microscope to see the differences.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	marton
	For all practical purposes, Switzerland is part of the EU. You need a microscope to see the differences.

Tell that to the lorry drivers that arrive Friday night & have to wait till Monday to enter.

It's not in the single market, you see this every time you see a customs officer asking you how much meat you have with you, or a packet arrives in the post that cost more than CHF 60, no need for a microscope totally obvious to anybody with eyes & a brain

[JackieH]

Johnson is a marvellous man - well he certainly is an excellent liar and exceptional at deceipt

https://fb.watch/2Jo7_Aqb9o/

[fatmanfilms]

UK will reap benefits by suspending US tariffs!

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/br...095943301.html

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	marton
	For all practical purposes, Switzerland is part of the EU. The bilateral treaties contain largely the same content as the EEA treaties, making Switzerland a virtual member of the EEA. Most EU law applies universally throughout the EU, the EEA, and Switzerland, providing most of the conditions of the free movement of people, goods, services, and capital that apply to the member states. Switzerland pays into the EU budget and is a member of Schengen. You need a microscope to see the differences.

- Switzerland is not part of the EU customs union, which means that firms have to go through the process of exporting into the EU and now goods going to the UK will have to be "exported" out of the EU and into the UK, mean all the usual bonded warehouse, sealed containers etc... stuff is now needed.


- Switzerland does not pay into the EU budget, it pays into the structural fund, which is applied for a particular purpose



- Switzerland is not a member of the EEA and is not subject to it's judicial procedures.


and the list goes on.


But of course if you don't bother informing yourself....

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	marton
	For all practical purposes, Switzerland is part of the EU.

No, we are happily not.

The EU is a shithole.

Screw the EU!

Tom

[JackieH]

Now you are entitled to your opinion- but care to elaborate. What has the EU ever done to you to make you so angry?

[marton]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	UK will reap benefits by suspending US tariffs! https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/br...095943301.html

So in concrete terms how many billions are these benefits worth?
No doubt UK wine exports will leap up.

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	JackieH
	Now you are entitled to your opinion- but care to elaborate. What has the EU ever done to you to make you so angry?

FMOP allowing frontalieri to clog up our roads.

Sleazy Italian companies moving in complete with their entire workforce, and lowering local wages.

Forcing their stupid rules on everyone.

And overall, bringing nothing positive, just bureaucracy!

The UK was right to get out when they still could!

The EU is Hitler's dream come true.

Tom

[MusicChick]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	The UK was right to get out when they still could!

This.

EU eats its own children. They don't make it look really obvious because of the political prose used. But CH sees through it.

[JackieH]

Ah yes, those awful, nasty frontaliers, who cross every day to look after out sick and our elderly, doctors, nurses, care staff. Horrible how dare they!

[John William]

Boris Johnson's father, Stanley Johnson wants to apply for Frech citizenship after Brexit.

Business Insider - Stanley Johnson says he's applying for French citizenship after Brexit

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	John William
	Boris Johnson's father, Stanley Johnson wants to apply for Frech citizenship after Brexit. Business Insider - Stanley Johnson says he's applying for French citizenship after Brexit

Not new news, but so what? Do you agree with everything you father ever did or said?