View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen? |
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
|    | 49 | 23.11% |
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
|    | 33 | 15.57% |  | | | 
01.01.2021, 15:41
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Hmmm.. I don't think I have. Where is marmite made? | | | | | I don’t think that EU would be able to put up without the high level of football, rugby and cricket anymore.
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01.01.2021, 15:46
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I don’t think that EU would be able to put up without the high level of football, rugby and cricket anymore. | | | | | How are they putting up with the high level of hurling?
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01.01.2021, 16:20
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Our system of Democracy does not support joining the Union. If that could be retained, particularly giving the voters a veto over politicians, then I would welcome it.
Can’t see it happening on Swiss terms. | | | | | Even a lot of ardent Europhiles can see the EU is insufficiently Democratic . A President who wields significant power who is unelected. The only elected body having very little power.
If a developing part of the world had a Von Der Leyen the West would call them a dictator. How can the people get rid of her if they think she's done a bad job? They can't
Yes I know she's "indirectly elected", but so is President Xi. It's not enough. Not a personal attack on her - just the rotten system that views the electorate as something to be bypassed.
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01.01.2021, 16:22
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Hmmm.. I don't think I have. Where is marmite made? | | | | | Dare I suggest the Swiss marmite is better than the UK one.
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01.01.2021, 16:27
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Dare I suggest the Swiss marmite is better than the UK one. | | | | | You may dare but I disagree. I really don't want to be divorced from my magic marmite | 
01.01.2021, 17:23
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What it will happen with UK nationals that work from home in the EU due to covid and they have entered the EU back in the summer? I know quite a few cases. After today are they illegal? Do they need to leave the EU asap?
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01.01.2021, 17:37
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | You may dare but I disagree. I really don't want to be divorced from my magic marmite  | | | | | Cenovis is a different taste- sometimes I prefer it, sometimes I prefer Marmite. But that is the point- having the choice.
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01.01.2021, 17:38
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | What it will happen with UK nationals that work from home in the EU due to covid and they have entered the EU back in the summer? I know quite a few cases. After today are they illegal? Do they need to leave the EU asap? | | | | | I suspect they can remain in the EU/Schengen for 90 days from 1 January. After that they will have to leave. It’s up to them where they go, as long it’s not another EU/Schengen country. Of course Ireland may be different.
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01.01.2021, 18:29
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Cenovis is a different taste- sometimes I prefer it, sometimes I prefer Marmite. But that is the point- having the choice. | | | | | I find them both equally disgusting so I don’t really care.
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01.01.2021, 18:54
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | What it will happen with UK nationals that work from home in the EU due to covid and they have entered the EU back in the summer? I know quite a few cases. After today are they illegal? Do they need to leave the EU asap? | | | | | They can stay for 90 days..... but they shouldn’t be working, that is probably illegal, as they need a work permit now.
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01.01.2021, 18:56
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I find them both equally disgusting so I don’t really care. | | | | |
fact is you have the choice, and that is what matters. Excellent for you though, all that Vitamin B.
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01.01.2021, 19:45
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I suspect they can remain in the EU/Schengen for 90 days from 1 January. After that they will have to leave. It’s up to them where they go, as long it’s not another EU/Schengen country. Of course Ireland may be different. | | | | | Or Estonia - Quote Estonia has opened applications for its Digital Nomad Visa (DNV), which permits international
citizens ( mostly non EU ) in Estonia to work for an international employer or as a freelancer.
A Digital Nomad Visa permits aliens who are engaged in jobs independent of location, to work remotely in Estonia.
Technology, finance and marketing are the main areas of activity in this kind of visa. Schengen Visa Info - Estonia opens applications for Digital Nomad Visa | The following 2 users would like to thank John William for this useful post: | | 
01.01.2021, 19:51
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Or Estonia - Quote Estonia has opened applications for its Digital Nomad Visa (DNV), which permits international
citizens ( mostly non EU ) in Estonia to work for an international employer or as a freelancer.
A Digital Nomad Visa permits aliens who are engaged in jobs independent of location, to work remotely in Estonia.
Technology, finance and marketing are the main areas of activity in this kind of visa. Schengen Visa Info - Estonia opens applications for Digital Nomad Visa | | | | | This is no suprise to me. Estonia is a very very advanced country when it comes to The IT industry and professionals.
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02.01.2021, 01:19
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | They can stay for 90 days..... but they shouldn’t be working, that is probably illegal, as they need a work permit now. | | | | | This. The Schengen rights are for the purpose of tourism and if asked by the authorities you are required to be able identify yourself and demonstrate that you are a genuine tourist. Probably a good idea to hold on to things like hotel receipts, train tickets etc while on a trip.
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02.01.2021, 02:12
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | They can stay for 90 days..... but they shouldn’t be working, that is probably illegal, as they need a work permit now. | | | | | They came under FMOP though. So I think they can continue but not leave and then renter and do the same.
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02.01.2021, 06:52
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Probably a good idea to hold on to things like hotel receipts, train tickets etc while on a trip. | | | | | That is why 3rd country passports are stamped in and out of Schengen.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | They came under FMOP though. So I think they can continue but not leave and then renter and do the same. | | | | | After 90 days EU nationals need some sort of permit in Switzerland, the same applies to UK nationals who arrived before 01/01/20
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Even a lot of ardent Europhiles can see the EU is insufficiently Democratic . A President who wields significant power who is unelected. The only elected body having very little power.
If a developing part of the world had a Von Der Leyen the West would call them a dictator. How can the people get rid of her if they think she's done a bad job? They can't
Yes I know she's "indirectly elected", but so is President Xi. It's not enough. Not a personal attack on her - just the rotten system that views the electorate as something to be bypassed. | | | | | Precisely. The European Parliament can't even initiate legislation. The EP can only request the Commission to submit a legislative proposal. Rotten indeed.
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02.01.2021, 13:05
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | That is why 3rd country passports are stamped in and out of Schengen. | | | | |
Being stamped in and out does not indicate your activity.... that was why I suggested not tossing receipts etc until after your trip.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Precisely. The European Parliament can't even initiate legislation. The EP can only request the Commission to submit a legislative proposal. Rotten indeed. | | | | |
Yes, it's amazing how things can seem when you don't take the time to educate yourself and understand the reasons why that is the favored approach among the member states.
And of course the fact that we have documented evidence under the FOI, of both the Queen and the Prince of Wales interfering with the operation of parliament in the UK is fine is it?
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