The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[John William]

A new era for Post-Brexit Britain in 2021 or The Triumph of the Public School Boys.
Was Brexit won on the playing fields of Eton ?

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	John William
	No the Brexit's kicked the idea of going for EFTA or EEA membership out of the window, as that would make the UK a rule taker rather than a rule maker. Jacob Rees-Mogg went even further in his condemnation of EFTA or EEA membership, as likening EFTA & EEA member countries as being 'vassal states' of the EU.

I think the idea of an independent Scotland is that they get to decide...

[JackieH]

	Quote:	John William
	A new era for Post-Brexit Britain in 2021 or The Triumph of the Public School Boys. Was Brexit won on the playing fields of Eton ? Attachment 140997

Rees-Mogg went to Sherborne I believe, with many relatives of mine on UK and CH side. And it was his father who wrote a famous book about how to become very rich screwing the poor with disaster politics. And of course, it was always about the EU Tax Directive and Tax Avoidance. Even those who went to minor Private schools, not even 'Public' - support them.

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	JackieH
	Rees-Mogg went to Sherborne I believe, with many relatives of mine on UK and CH side. And it was his father who wrote a famous book about how to become very rich screwing the poor with disaster politics. And of course, it was always about the EU Tax Directive and Tax Avoidance. Even those who went to minor Private schools, not even 'Public' - support them.

Theres no difference between a "private" school and a "public" one. "Public" merely refers to it not being a guild school (which no longer really exist). That said I thought Rees Mogg went to Eton and his father to Charterhouse.

Incidentally I'd love to hear your opinion as a Swiss person about whether your country should join the EU.

[Island Monkey]

	Quote:	HickvonFrick
	Theres no difference between a "private" school and a "public" one. "

They are "posher" ie Eton

[JackieH]

If you are British, you know that 'Public School' in the UK means nothing like 'public school' in the US. And if you know your British History, you know that there is a real and huge hierachy between 'Public Schools' and 'mere' Private Schools, in the UK.

Yes - and no. Now we have accepted Free Movement, Switzerland is one of the few countries that has been able to achieve a sort of 'cake and eat' it Deal with the EU, that was never ever going to be open to the UK. So perhaps best keep it that way for now. In my heart and mind, I shall always be a European- noone can take that away from me.

[st2lemans]

	Quote:	JackieH
	Ever been to Calais perhaps. Ever been to UK at all?

Yes, 3x 2 weeks in the UK back in '84.

The food sucked, so I took the hovercraft to Calais for lunch most days!

Tom

[st2lemans]

[bowlie]

	Quote:	HickvonFrick
	Incidentally I'd love to hear your opinion as a Swiss person about whether your country should join the EU.

Our system of Democracy does not support joining the Union. If that could be retained, particularly giving the voters a veto over politicians, then I would welcome it.

Can’t see it happening on Swiss terms.

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	They could always just join EFTA and achieve their objectives via the EEA agreement. And they are free to continue using sterling for as long as they like, of course having a second central banking dealing in the currency and a second government issuing debt would make it difficult for the Bank of England, but it is not as if this is new, Ireland did it for a long time and the UK had no choice, but accept it.

This is true, although the SNP have already firmly tied their colours to the mast of rejoining the EU, that this is incredibly unlikely on SNP terms seems irrelevant to them or their supporters.

I actually believe an independent Scotland could thrive under EFTA like Norway or Iceland were she not so addicted to welfare and high spending.

	Quote:	JackieH
	Yes - and no. Now we have accepted Free Movement, Switzerland is one of the few countries that has been able to achieve a sort of 'cake and eat' it Deal with the EU, that was never ever going to be open to the UK. So perhaps best keep it that way for now. In my heart and mind, I shall always be a European- noone can take that away from me.

The UKs trade deal is far more “cake and eat it” than the Swiss bilaterals currently in place.

[John William]

	Quote:	HickvonFrick
	Theres no difference between a "private" school and a "public" one. "Public" merely refers to it not being a guild school (which no longer really exist). That said I thought Rees Mogg went to Eton and his father to Charterhouse.

Didn't Switzerland have a hand in maintaining & preserving the British Upper Class System by teaching social graces
& upper-class cultural rites, as preperation for entry into society with their Swiss Finishing Schools ?

Wiki on Finishing Schools

[MusicChick]

	Quote:	st2lemans

Hmmm.. I don't think I have. Where is marmite made?

[John William]

Three Cheers for Switzerland.

Genève - The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC)
today has announced the list of goods to be sent to BREXIT BRITAIN
– 1 orange/apple
– 1 banana
– 2 carrots
– 2 onions
– 2 potatoes
– 1 tin of baked beans
– 1 tin of tomatoes
– 1 tin of garden peas OR kidney beans
– 1 small tin of tuna OR 1x small tin of sardines
– 1 loaf of white OR brown bread
– 250g pasta twists OR spaghetti
– 250g long grain white rice
– 200g sugar
– 250g salt
– 250ml vegetable oil
– 20 tea bags
– 1 carton of apple OR orange juice (1 litre)
– 1 carton of UHT long-life milk (1 litre)
- Humble pie (leave voters only)

all goods will arrive at the port of ramsgate on a Unicorn Ferry ...

[MusicChick]

20 tea bags? Really?

[jacek]

	Quote:	MusicChick
	Hmmm.. I don't think I have. Where is marmite made?

I don’t think that EU would be able to put up without the high level of football, rugby and cricket anymore.

[MusicChick]

	Quote:	jacek
	I don’t think that EU would be able to put up without the high level of football, rugby and cricket anymore.

How are they putting up with the high level of hurling?

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	bowlie
	Our system of Democracy does not support joining the Union. If that could be retained, particularly giving the voters a veto over politicians, then I would welcome it. Can’t see it happening on Swiss terms.

Even a lot of ardent Europhiles can see the EU is insufficiently Democratic . A President who wields significant power who is unelected. The only elected body having very little power.

If a developing part of the world had a Von Der Leyen the West would call them a dictator. How can the people get rid of her if they think she's done a bad job? They can't

Yes I know she's "indirectly elected", but so is President Xi. It's not enough. Not a personal attack on her - just the rotten system that views the electorate as something to be bypassed.

[HickvonFrick]

	Quote:	MusicChick
	Hmmm.. I don't think I have. Where is marmite made?

Dare I suggest the Swiss marmite is better than the UK one.

[MusicChick]

	Quote:	HickvonFrick
	Dare I suggest the Swiss marmite is better than the UK one.

You may dare but I disagree. I really don't want to be divorced from my magic marmite

[wantone]

What it will happen with UK nationals that work from home in the EU due to covid and they have entered the EU back in the summer? I know quite a few cases. After today are they illegal? Do they need to leave the EU asap?