Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
Voters: 212. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #28621  
Old 01.01.2021, 11:48
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Zurich
Posts: 365
Groaned at 35 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 791 Times in 407 Posts
John William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

A new era for Post-Brexit Britain in 2021 or The Triumph of the Public School Boys.
Was Brexit won on the playing fields of Eton ?


Name:  Top hat1.jpg
Views: 338
Size:  23.5 KB

Last edited by John William; 01.01.2021 at 12:02.
Reply With Quote
  #28622  
Old 01.01.2021, 12:36
Jim2007's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Kt. Bern
Posts: 4,278
Groaned at 204 Times in 161 Posts
Thanked 6,917 Times in 3,093 Posts
Jim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond reputeJim2007 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
No the Brexit's kicked the idea of going for EFTA or EEA membership out of the window, as that would make the
UK a rule taker rather than a rule maker.
Jacob Rees-Mogg went even further in his condemnation of EFTA or EEA membership, as likening EFTA & EEA member
countries as being 'vassal states' of the EU.
I think the idea of an independent Scotland is that they get to decide...
Reply With Quote
  #28623  
Old 01.01.2021, 12:55
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Up there over the fog
Posts: 1,397
Groaned at 171 Times in 137 Posts
Thanked 1,664 Times in 819 Posts
JackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
A new era for Post-Brexit Britain in 2021 or The Triumph of the Public School Boys.
Was Brexit won on the playing fields of Eton ?


Attachment 140997
Rees-Mogg went to Sherborne I believe, with many relatives of mine on UK and CH side. And it was his father who wrote a famous book about how to become very rich screwing the poor with disaster politics. And of course, it was always about the EU Tax Directive and Tax Avoidance. Even those who went to minor Private schools, not even 'Public' - support them.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank JackieH for this useful post:
  #28624  
Old 01.01.2021, 13:42
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Frick, Aargau
Posts: 1,533
Groaned at 33 Times in 28 Posts
Thanked 2,084 Times in 1,040 Posts
HickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Rees-Mogg went to Sherborne I believe, with many relatives of mine on UK and CH side. And it was his father who wrote a famous book about how to become very rich screwing the poor with disaster politics. And of course, it was always about the EU Tax Directive and Tax Avoidance. Even those who went to minor Private schools, not even 'Public' - support them.
Theres no difference between a "private" school and a "public" one. "Public" merely refers to it not being a guild school (which no longer really exist). That said I thought Rees Mogg went to Eton and his father to Charterhouse.

Incidentally I'd love to hear your opinion as a Swiss person about whether your country should join the EU.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank HickvonFrick for this useful post:
  #28625  
Old 01.01.2021, 13:45
Island Monkey's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wallis
Posts: 4,991
Groaned at 90 Times in 55 Posts
Thanked 5,195 Times in 2,415 Posts
Island Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond reputeIsland Monkey has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Theres no difference between a "private" school and a "public" one. "
They are "posher" ie Eton
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Island Monkey for this useful post:
  #28626  
Old 01.01.2021, 13:45
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Up there over the fog
Posts: 1,397
Groaned at 171 Times in 137 Posts
Thanked 1,664 Times in 819 Posts
JackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond reputeJackieH has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

If you are British, you know that 'Public School' in the UK means nothing like 'public school' in the US. And if you know your British History, you know that there is a real and huge hierachy between 'Public Schools' and 'mere' Private Schools, in the UK.

Yes - and no. Now we have accepted Free Movement, Switzerland is one of the few countries that has been able to achieve a sort of 'cake and eat' it Deal with the EU, that was never ever going to be open to the UK. So perhaps best keep it that way for now. In my heart and mind, I shall always be a European- noone can take that away from me.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank JackieH for this useful post:
  #28627  
Old 01.01.2021, 14:32
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 30,107
Groaned at 2,143 Times in 1,599 Posts
Thanked 36,093 Times in 17,114 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Ever been to Calais perhaps. Ever been to UK at all?
Yes, 3x 2 weeks in the UK back in '84.

The food sucked, so I took the hovercraft to Calais for lunch most days!

Tom
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users groan at st2lemans for this post:
  #28628  
Old 01.01.2021, 15:25
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 30,107
Groaned at 2,143 Times in 1,599 Posts
Thanked 36,093 Times in 17,114 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Reply With Quote
This user groans at st2lemans for this post:
  #28629  
Old 01.01.2021, 15:55
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Nyon
Posts: 3,999
Groaned at 191 Times in 140 Posts
Thanked 5,360 Times in 2,529 Posts
bowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond reputebowlie has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Incidentally I'd love to hear your opinion as a Swiss person about whether your country should join the EU.
Our system of Democracy does not support joining the Union. If that could be retained, particularly giving the voters a veto over politicians, then I would welcome it.

Can’t see it happening on Swiss terms.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank bowlie for this useful post:
  #28630  
Old 01.01.2021, 16:02
TonyClifton's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Hopefully soon to be Aargau
Posts: 1,001
Groaned at 412 Times in 244 Posts
Thanked 2,393 Times in 1,138 Posts
TonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond reputeTonyClifton has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
They could always just join EFTA and achieve their objectives via the EEA agreement. And they are free to continue using sterling for as long as they like, of course having a second central banking dealing in the currency and a second government issuing debt would make it difficult for the Bank of England, but it is not as if this is new, Ireland did it for a long time and the UK had no choice, but accept it.
This is true, although the SNP have already firmly tied their colours to the mast of rejoining the EU, that this is incredibly unlikely on SNP terms seems irrelevant to them or their supporters.

I actually believe an independent Scotland could thrive under EFTA like Norway or Iceland were she not so addicted to welfare and high spending.

Quote:
View Post

Yes - and no. Now we have accepted Free Movement, Switzerland is one of the few countries that has been able to achieve a sort of 'cake and eat' it Deal with the EU, that was never ever going to be open to the UK. So perhaps best keep it that way for now. In my heart and mind, I shall always be a European- noone can take that away from me.
The UKs trade deal is far more “cake and eat it” than the Swiss bilaterals currently in place.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank TonyClifton for this useful post:
  #28631  
Old 01.01.2021, 16:14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Zurich
Posts: 365
Groaned at 35 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 791 Times in 407 Posts
John William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Theres no difference between a "private" school and a "public" one. "Public" merely refers to it not being a guild school (which no longer really exist). That said I thought Rees Mogg went to Eton and his father to Charterhouse.
Didn't Switzerland have a hand in maintaining & preserving the British Upper Class System by teaching social graces
& upper-class cultural rites, as preperation for entry into society with their Swiss Finishing Schools ?

Wiki on Finishing Schools
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank John William for this useful post:
  #28632  
Old 01.01.2021, 16:30
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 16,307
Groaned at 346 Times in 239 Posts
Thanked 18,805 Times in 9,792 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Hmmm.. I don't think I have. Where is marmite made?
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank MusicChick for this useful post:
  #28633  
Old 01.01.2021, 16:37
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Zurich
Posts: 365
Groaned at 35 Times in 31 Posts
Thanked 791 Times in 407 Posts
John William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond reputeJohn William has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Three Cheers for Switzerland.

Genève - The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC)
today has announced the list of goods to be sent to BREXIT BRITAIN
– 1 orange/apple
– 1 banana
– 2 carrots
– 2 onions
– 2 potatoes
– 1 tin of baked beans
– 1 tin of tomatoes
– 1 tin of garden peas OR kidney beans
– 1 small tin of tuna OR 1x small tin of sardines
– 1 loaf of white OR brown bread
– 250g pasta twists OR spaghetti
– 250g long grain white rice
– 200g sugar
– 250g salt
– 250ml vegetable oil
– 20 tea bags
– 1 carton of apple OR orange juice (1 litre)
– 1 carton of UHT long-life milk (1 litre)
- Humble pie (leave voters only)

all goods will arrive at the port of ramsgate on a Unicorn Ferry ...

Name:  Red Cross parcel.jpg
Views: 147
Size:  20.5 KB
__________________
Surely the time has come for Boris to 'circle the wagons' for a bit of herd immunity ?
Reply With Quote
  #28634  
Old 01.01.2021, 16:40
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 16,307
Groaned at 346 Times in 239 Posts
Thanked 18,805 Times in 9,792 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

20 tea bags? Really?
Reply With Quote
  #28635  
Old 01.01.2021, 16:41
jacek's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Aargau
Posts: 8,596
Groaned at 122 Times in 89 Posts
Thanked 6,215 Times in 3,481 Posts
jacek has a reputation beyond reputejacek has a reputation beyond reputejacek has a reputation beyond reputejacek has a reputation beyond reputejacek has a reputation beyond reputejacek has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Hmmm.. I don't think I have. Where is marmite made?
I don’t think that EU would be able to put up without the high level of football, rugby and cricket anymore.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank jacek for this useful post:
  #28636  
Old 01.01.2021, 16:46
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 16,307
Groaned at 346 Times in 239 Posts
Thanked 18,805 Times in 9,792 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
I don’t think that EU would be able to put up without the high level of football, rugby and cricket anymore.
How are they putting up with the high level of hurling?
Reply With Quote
  #28637  
Old 01.01.2021, 17:20
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Frick, Aargau
Posts: 1,533
Groaned at 33 Times in 28 Posts
Thanked 2,084 Times in 1,040 Posts
HickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Our system of Democracy does not support joining the Union. If that could be retained, particularly giving the voters a veto over politicians, then I would welcome it.

Can’t see it happening on Swiss terms.
Even a lot of ardent Europhiles can see the EU is insufficiently Democratic . A President who wields significant power who is unelected. The only elected body having very little power.

If a developing part of the world had a Von Der Leyen the West would call them a dictator. How can the people get rid of her if they think she's done a bad job? They can't

Yes I know she's "indirectly elected", but so is President Xi. It's not enough. Not a personal attack on her - just the rotten system that views the electorate as something to be bypassed.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank HickvonFrick for this useful post:
  #28638  
Old 01.01.2021, 17:22
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Frick, Aargau
Posts: 1,533
Groaned at 33 Times in 28 Posts
Thanked 2,084 Times in 1,040 Posts
HickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond reputeHickvonFrick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Hmmm.. I don't think I have. Where is marmite made?
Dare I suggest the Swiss marmite is better than the UK one.
Reply With Quote
  #28639  
Old 01.01.2021, 17:27
MusicChick's Avatar
modified, reprogrammed and doctored²
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: La Cote
Posts: 16,307
Groaned at 346 Times in 239 Posts
Thanked 18,805 Times in 9,792 Posts
MusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond reputeMusicChick has a reputation beyond repute
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Quote:
View Post
Dare I suggest the Swiss marmite is better than the UK one.
You may dare but I disagree. I really don't want to be divorced from my magic marmite
Reply With Quote
  #28640  
Old 01.01.2021, 18:23
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: GR
Posts: 435
Groaned at 21 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 141 Times in 119 Posts
wantone has no particular reputation at present
Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

What it will happen with UK nationals that work from home in the EU due to covid and they have entered the EU back in the summer? I know quite a few cases. After today are they illegal? Do they need to leave the EU asap?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
europe




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 12 (0 members and 12 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Latest Referendum, what will be consequences for EU (C permit and B permit) holders? expat2014 Permits/visas/government 3 11.02.2014 08:59
Importing vehicles and the VAT consequences in Switzerland from France BEFO Finance/banking/taxation 6 07.08.2013 15:11
The (Available in CH) Dog Food Review Thread meloncollie Pet corner 44 08.05.2012 20:15
Common-law marriage and consequences in CH Mishto Family matters/health 9 01.10.2011 22:03
Something for the Brits: M&S in CH mark Daily life 11 15.11.2007 12:18


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:39.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0