The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[bowlie]

	Quote:	HickvonFrick
	Nope - there are 2 lib dem councillors in Manchester and the rest are labour. The MPs are all Labour. Thus, you don't live in Manchester. I imagine (as you aren't in Sale/Altringham) you are probably in Stockport Council? (either Cheadle or Hazel Grove seat) - which has the following composition: Labour 26 Liberal Democrats 26 Conservatives 8 Independent Ratepayers 3 I wonder if your MP is the one who likes to be urinated on?

Actually I don’t think anyone actually cares.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	st2lemans
	What's the HoC? Tom

Probably House of Commons, the lower and more important of the two chambers of the british parliament.

[baboon]

	Quote:	HickvonFrick
	Nope - there are 2 lib dem councillors in Manchester and the rest are labour. The MPs are all Labour. Thus, you don't live in Manchester. I imagine (as you aren't in Sale/Altringham) you are probably in Stockport Council? (either Cheadle or Hazel Grove seat) - which has the following composition: Labour 26 Liberal Democrats 26 Conservatives 8 Independent Ratepayers 3

9 Conservative MPs in Greater Manchester.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ter_Manchester

[fatmanfilms]

Brits resident in the EU post Brexit to be given extra free movement rights
https://www.politico.eu/article/brit...51L_5RzQljphQY

[Castro]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Brits resident in the EU post Brexit to be given extra free movement rights https://www.politico.eu/article/brit...51L_5RzQljphQY

Do you have a more up-to-date link (than August 2020) because I can't find mention of this anywhere else?

[bowlie]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Brits resident in the EU post Brexit to be given extra free movement rights https://www.politico.eu/article/brit...51L_5RzQljphQY

Article dated August 2020. May be out of date. In any case this likely wouldn’t apply to non-EU countries.

[Castro]

	Quote:	bowlie
	Article dated August 2020. May be out of date. In any case this likely wouldn’t apply to non-EU countries.

The fact is those EU citizens living in the UK now have substantially better rights than their British counterparts living in the EU. They have full leave to remain in the UK with all their pre-existing rights... or they can pick anywhere else to live in the EU.

That's why FMF's link surprised me, because Brits in Europe have been roundly shafted by our government.

[eng_ch]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Brits resident in the EU post Brexit to be given extra free movement rights https://www.politico.eu/article/brit...51L_5RzQljphQY

This is sadly not true. The Politico article gets quoted a lot but they got their facts wrong, as British in Europe keep having to point out. The only clarification was confirmation that UK citizens covered by the Withdrawal Agreement can hold multiple statuses (e.g. as the spouse of an EU citizen) and also maintain and/or acquire other rights available to any other TCN, such as a Blue Card in states that operate the system and the EU long-term residence permit under the same conditions as any other TCN (language requirements, professional qualifications etc.). Politico chose to spin that as extra rights being granted, which is sadly not the case and is causing a lot of unnecessary work for BiE and disappointment for UK citizens who think they've found a silver bullet.

[eng_ch]

	Quote:	Castro
	The fact is those EU citizens living in the UK now have substantially better rights than their British counterparts living in the EU. They have full leave to remain in the UK with all their pre-existing rights... or they can pick anywhere else to live in the EU.

This was always well known, of course. What is less well known and, in my view, more disgraceful in terms of how the British government is (not) defending its own citizens' rights is the fact that Irish citizens in the UK have far greater rights than UK citizens in the UK because they can vote in the UK and still have full EU FoM. They can also move to the UK freely under the CTA. An Irish passport has now become one of the most powerful passports in the world.