The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	marton
	"if they moved permanently to an EU country" do you understand the meaning of the word "permanent"? Why would they consider returning and living in the UK if they are permanently in another country?

Permeant in UK tax terms means more than a tax year, same as having a job in Ch with no end date. It's permanent & you get fired or give notice.

[John William]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Permeant in UK tax terms means more than a tax year, same as having a job in Ch with no end date. It's permanent & you get fired or give notice.

Permanent meaning they have taken up permanent residency in another country and have the relevant
permanent residence card, certificate, etc ( after satisfying the relevant authorities upon application for
permanent residency ) to prove it.

[John William]

	Quote:	marton
	"if they moved permanently to an EU country" do you understand the meaning of the word "permanent"? Why would they consider returning and living in the UK if they are permanently in another country?

At the end of the day, it's as 'permanent as the conditions are favourable in their newly adopted country'.
I've lost count of the number of Expats who say they have 'permanently emigrated' to another country
and wouldn't dream of going back to the old country again. Only for 'force of circumstances' or
other unforeseen events to put a spanner in the works, eg Brexit or the Pandemic, whether it be 3 ,10,
20 or 30 years or more after they moved.

[JackieH]

Indeed. lived permanently in UK for 40 years and never ever considered going back to CH where I grew up. Then I retired, my parents were in their 90s and needed help, and we fell in love with this old house ...Was never ever on the cards.

[John William]

Oh the joys to behold from all those extra charges from Brexit.


BBC News - I was asked to pay an extra £82 for my £200 coat

[k_and_e]

	Quote:	John William
	Oh the joys to behold from all those extra charges from Brexit. BBC News - I was asked to pay an extra £82 for my £200 coat

Looks like some of the import threads here on EF

[bowlie]

	Quote:	John William
	Oh the joys to behold from all those extra charges from Brexit. BBC News - I was asked to pay an extra £82 for my £200 coat

Some people shouldn’t be allowed out without supervision. My goodness, the reason why it was so cheap was because the retailer deleted the (whichever) EU country VAT as it was being exported.

If she had ordered it from China, Canada, Chile or any other country starting with C she would have had to pay VAT plus, plus. So why not EU countries?

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	John William
	Oh the joys to behold from all those extra charges from Brexit. BBC News - I was asked to pay an extra £82 for my £200 coat

Probably not a great time for the delivery people having to deliver the bad news

[marton]

	Quote:	John William
	Oh the joys to behold from all those extra charges from Brexit. BBC News - I was asked to pay an extra £82 for my £200 coat

From your link, looks expensive!

	Quote:
	Disputes are likely to arise if UK buyers think the extra charges are a "hidden cost" that they were unaware of, and feel they should not pay. Now the UK has left the EU, this dispute can no longer be settled in UK courts. It falls under the jurisdiction of the country where the seller is located

[John William]

	Quote:	marton
	From your link, looks expensive!

Of course, in which case you will love this:
Quote.
Since 1st January lots of European customers have been presented with an
unexpected customs invoice when signing for goods they've ordered from
the UK. These new customs charges are a result of the new EU trade
deal with the UK.

BBC News - British retailers warn they could burn goods stuck in the EU

[marton]

Hidden Brexit health benefit

	Quote:
	“EU wine per bottle on retail will increase by at least £1 per bottle for mass market products; for niche small batch wines you are looking at £1.50 or even £2.00 on the bottle prices. There’s another of those Brexit ‘dividends’,” Daniel Lambert, a major British wine agent who imports up to 2m bottles of wine a year for 300 retailers including supermarkets.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	marton
	Hidden Brexit health benefit

UK always taxed wine higher than beer for political reasons, no reason why beer drinkers should not pay their 'fair share'. France on the other hand charges 23% employee contributions on ALL income + 46% employee contributions, believing that the poor should pay their way too. Makes the Swiss rate of around 6% (roughly half the UK rate) for both look like a huge deal.

[Polymath]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	UK always taxed wine higher than beer for political reasons, no reason why beer drinkers should not pay their 'fair share'. France on the other hand charges 23% employee contributions on ALL income + 46% employee contributions, believing that the poor should pay their way too. Makes the Swiss rate of around 6% (roughly half the UK rate) for both look like a huge deal.

I was very pleasantly surprised by wine prices here compared to the UK and Ireland.

[MusicChick]

	Quote:	Polymath
	I was very pleasantly surprised by wine prices here compared to the UK and Ireland.

Hasn't the price gotten down past 16 years here? Seems like it to me..

[Polymath]

	Quote:	MusicChick
	Hasn't the price gotten down past 16 years here? Seems like it to me..

Well I've only been buying wine in Switzerland for around the last 6 years. It's hard to say how prices have developed in that time. I am quite selective. I have a penchant for fine Burgundy and Bordeaux which are not cheap. Looking at the price of these from some of the top cellars in Switzerland was a pleasant surprise compared to trying to procure such bottles in Ireland. Still burns a hole in the pocket though!

On the flip side you can pick up some fantastic wines in Denner, at a really excellent QPR for more everyday drinking. Also coop when the 20% offer is on offers great value when you compare to supermarket wine elsewhere.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Polymath
	Well I've only been buying wine in Switzerland for around the last 6 years. It's hard to say how prices have developed in that time. I am quite selective. I have a penchant for fine Burgundy and Bordeaux which are not cheap. Looking at the price of these from some of the top cellars in Switzerland was a pleasant surprise compared to trying to procure such bottles in Ireland. Still burns a hole in the pocket though! On the flip side you can pick up some fantastic wines in Denner, at a really excellent QPR for more everyday drinking. Also coop when the 20% offer is on offers great value when you compare to supermarket wine elsewhere.

In France I generally spend €12-25 on a bottle, I find in the UK prices are not so different in that price range. The €2.50 wine in France will be £5.00 in the UK & still make you feel like shit the day after

For Swiss wine I find the entry level to be higher for anything drinkable, probably Chf 22 plus

[MusicChick]

	Quote:	Polymath
	..for more everyday drinking.

Noooo..

[marton]

	Quote:	Polymath
	Well I've only been buying wine in Switzerland for around the last 6 years. It's hard to say how prices have developed in that time. I am quite selective. I have a penchant for fine Burgundy and Bordeaux which are not cheap. Looking at the price of these from some of the top cellars in Switzerland was a pleasant surprise compared to trying to procure such bottles in Ireland. Still burns a hole in the pocket though! On the flip side you can pick up some fantastic wines in Denner, at a really excellent QPR for more everyday drinking. Also coop when the 20% offer is on offers great value when you compare to supermarket wine elsewhere.

Plus one for Denner, often offer fine wines at half price and usually once a month an extra 20% discount

[Island Monkey]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-up-shop-in-eu

You couldn’t make this up

[SponPlague]

For his 80th, I gave my father, in Edinburgh, 40 year Bowmore whisky. It was cheaper to buy in Zürich and fly it back, even though it originated there!