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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 12.02.2021, 15:34
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Adroitly ignoring the simple fact that UK financial services sector contributes around £80bn per year to the UK public purse if the trading moves away so then does the tax income.
You are confusing the traders & where they are based, from where the trades take place, nothing needs to change unless you want to sack overpaid useless staff.
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I think it's quite sad that you feel this way, to have such little faith in your own country. I assure you though, this question has been resolved for a generation and there won't be another vote in our lifetimes.
Alas! That’s what Wee Jimmy Krankie, First Lady of Follyrood promised, too!
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Old 12.02.2021, 21:28
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I bet those loser Brexiteers can't even solve Covid or global warming.
Well, judging by the snow I’ve seen this last month, I’m finding the term “global warming” a hard sell - and so are the poor trees that fell over in my garden
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I’m confused. I keep reading stories about the trials and tribulations of UK retailers, when selling to the EU, are required to include UK VAT in their selling price. Then the customer having to pay their countries VAT, plus associated admin costs. Such deliveries are being refused and the retailer having to pay the repatriation, or destruction, costs.

Why are they required to pay UK VAT when they are exporting from the UK?
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Old 13.02.2021, 09:23
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I’m confused. I keep reading stories about the trials and tribulations of UK retailers, when selling to the EU, are required to include UK VAT in their selling price. Then the customer having to pay their countries VAT, plus associated admin costs. Such deliveries are being refused and the retailer having to pay the repatriation, or destruction, costs.

Why are they required to pay UK VAT when they are exporting from the UK?
Well as I understand it, all goods are subject to VAT, but you can zero rate it if you are a registered exporter and you are willing to collect all the required evidence of exporting the goods.
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The EU plans to introduce a 'points-based' system for British holidaymakers going to countries like
France, Spain, Portugal, etc. according to this article. Lol.

Newsthump - EU plans to introduce a 'points-based' system for British holidaymakers
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Well as I understand it, all goods are subject to VAT, but you can zero rate it if you are a registered exporter and you are willing to collect all the required evidence of exporting the goods.
So to be a registered exporter you need approval from the British? And collecting evidence? Everyone can track a parcel these days?

So why all the moaning? It would actually give them an advantage as their prices, for export, would be 20-odd percent cheaper.
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Old 14.02.2021, 16:19
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So to be a registered exporter you need approval from the British? And collecting evidence? Everyone can track a parcel these days?

So why all the moaning? It would actually give them an advantage as their prices, for export, would be 20-odd percent cheaper.

Tracking a parcel tells you nothing about the actual contents.... the Revenue site details what is required.


For small and medium firms, exporting is now an active decision.
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Old 14.02.2021, 17:18
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So to be a registered exporter you need approval from the British? And collecting evidence? Everyone can track a parcel these days?

So why all the moaning? It would actually give them an advantage as their prices, for export, would be 20-odd percent cheaper.
Seems to be confusion here, any UK firm registered for VAT can deduct the VAT when shipping outside the UK. I know, I often did that when I owned a UK firm.
There are a number of conditions to meet and to prove but basically, it is a simple principle that charging UK VAT is not obligatory on exports from the UK.
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Old 15.02.2021, 02:11
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Seems to be confusion here, any UK firm registered for VAT can deduct the VAT when shipping outside the UK. I know, I often did that when I owned a UK firm.
There are a number of conditions to meet and to prove but basically, it is a simple principle that charging UK VAT is not obligatory on exports from the UK.
Read the Revenue site, new rules were introduced as of the 1.1.2021. What you did in the past is exactly that - the past.
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Old 17.02.2021, 20:32
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Another failure of the trade deal negotiators, you could not make this stuff up!
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One barrier stems from the EU’s list of species prohibited or restricted for import from third countries, which now includes the UK.

The list is designed to protect Europe from diseases and pests but includes native trees including oaks, alder and birch, important for native mixed woodlands.
How Boris managed to put part of the UK behind a trade barrier is beyond belief.
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How the DUP played their game and took their money, even more so. They KNEW there was no solution in Johnson's Deal. They took the money and gave their support to Johnson and enabled Brexit.

tuppence ha'penny beginning to drop.

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How Boris managed to put part of the UK behind a trade barrier is beyond belief.
Oh come on he was being practical! NI was lost the day the GFA was agreed, the demographics are such that a border poll will be called within the next 25 years, so no point in holding the rest of the country hostage... and they did vote to remain after all...
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How the DUP played their game and took their money, even more so. They KNEW there was no solution in Johnson's Deal. They took the money and gave their support to Johnson and enabled Brexit.
That is only the half of it. Every member of the DUP born in NI is an Irish citizen by birth, they can go to their local post office and pick up an Irish passport application, get it signed by their local DUP MP and they have their free movement.

They are entitled to European health card paid for by the Irish government and their kids have full access to the Erasmus program etc again paid for by the Irish government.

And if it all goes pear shaped, NI merges back into the EU on the same terms as East Germany, no questions asked.

But the bit of DUP logic that really cracks me up: we can’t sign a statutory declaration giving up our right to Irish citizenship because it represents recognition of the Irish state... but signing a passport application for a constituent for the passport of a state you don’t recognize is acceptable.

All the time they have been supporting BREXIT, they have an out in the back pocket just in case it doesn’t work out, so much for being in this together!
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How the DUP played their game and took their money, even more so. They KNEW there was no solution in Johnson's Deal. They took the money and gave their support to Johnson and enabled Brexit.

tuppence ha'penny beginning to drop.
There was another general election, I think you are confused.
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Having enough vaccine to go around?

The old wrinklies voting for brexit have saved their own skin on that front. Remaining would have cost thousands of lives to extra Covid deaths.
Despite multiple UK Government refusals to publish their contract with AstraZeneca it seems it was published in a redacted form on a govt. website last November.

Also despite all the claims about the UK post-Brexit being agile and quick so getting in earlier with their vaccine order this contract is dated after the EU contract.

Did I ever write you could not make this stuff up?
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Indeed, serious concerns now about the UK's ability to obtain second doses.
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Indeed, serious concerns now about the UK's ability to obtain second doses.
They had the same problem with getting a second referendum
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Indeed, serious concerns now about the UK's ability to obtain second doses.
while the EU faces serious concerns about the ability to get first doses.
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Marton, yes, totally clear that the 'vaccine nationalism' first started by the UK, with grand fanfare- will go both ways eventually.
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