The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	MusicChick
	Why would it even be considered "unfair"?

Because they are so woke.

[fatmanfilms]

To answer JackieH looking for a benefit, her UK pension will go further than it did in December.

The pound is now the best performing G10 currency against the dollar so far this year. Analyst at Bank of America said the currency was being buoyed by a "perfect storm" of factors: a resolution to Brexit; an impressive rollout of COVID-19 vaccines; and inflation fears in the US, which are denting the dollar.

[Jim2007]

So from the 1st of October I’ll need to take my Swiss or Irish passport if I want to fly to the UK, on the other hand I could just fly to Dublin with my Swiss ID and catch local flight to the UK instead unchecked...

This taking back control is great crack although!

It seems our school’s English trip next year, assuming it goes ahead of course, will go to Ireland instead of the traditional one to Brighton.

[Greg Zimmermann]

Anyone taken notice of the £? Ten raps up since 1st Jan!

'ava a Great Sumerly day y'all

GREG

[Pachyderm]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	So from the 1st of October I’ll need to take my Swiss or Irish passport if I want to fly to the UK, on the other hand I could just fly to Dublin with my Swiss ID and catch local flight to the UK instead unchecked... This taking back control is great crack although! It seems our school’s English trip next year, assuming it goes ahead of course, will go to Ireland instead of the traditional one to Brighton.

How onerous would it be to take your Swiss or Irish passport if you needed to fly to the UK? Seems more convenient than taking two flights via Dublin? Sorry Jim, I'm not seeing your point. Or are you unhappy that the UK agreed to retain the special travel arrangements that it's long had with Ireland? My Irish relatives regard that as a welcome benefit, and not as any disadvantage. Apart from that special arrangement, travelling to the UK from Switzerland or from within the EU shouldn't be any more inconvenient than it is flying to any other non-EU country. People go on about the need to stand in a queue at the airport but being outside Schengen, that's always been a possibility (not always invoked) for Brits when flying into CH / the EU -- and vice versa. It's not a big deal, don't worry.

Not entirely sure what this has to do with the school trip. I'm sure they'll have a great time wherever they end up.

[greenmount]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	So from the 1st of October I’ll need to take my Swiss or Irish passport if I want to fly to the UK, on the other hand I could just fly to Dublin with my Swiss ID and catch local flight to the UK instead unchecked... This taking back control is great crack although! It seems our school’s English trip next year, assuming it goes ahead of course, will go to Ireland instead of the traditional one to Brighton.

I was talking with my OH the other day and we both felt a bit sorry we didn't visit a lot of places we would have liked to see in UK and it would be really crazy to start doing it now when everything will be more complicated. (but that would be typical us, always choosing the most difficult path so to speak)
Funnily enough, since you've mentioned Brighton, that's one place we did visit some years ago. Very, very nice. Ireland is also beautiful, I would never feel sorry if I had to spend my holidays there.

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	greenmount
	I was talking with my OH the other day and we both felt a bit sorry we didn't visit a lot of places we would have liked to see in UK and it would be really crazy to start doing it now when everything will be more complicated. (but that would be typical us, always choosing the most difficult path so to speak)

Covid aside, I fail to see in how visiting the UK will now be more complicated than before

[JackieH]

	Quote:	greenmount
	I was talking with my OH the other day and we both felt a bit sorry we didn't visit a lot of places we would have liked to see in UK and it would be really crazy to start doing it now when everything will be more complicated. (but that would be typical us, always choosing the most difficult path so to speak) Funnily enough, since you've mentioned Brighton, that's one place we did visit some years ago. Very, very nice. Ireland is also beautiful, I would never feel sorry if I had to spend my holidays there.

Once Covid restrictions are over- it won't be difficult to visit as a tourist. And there are so many amazing regions to visit, and so so varied. Without going far from London, you have Oxford and the amazing Cotswolds NW, and Cambridge, Rutland and North Norfolk NE. And then the beautiful Peak District near Derby, and the Yorkhsire Dales and Wolds further North with York and the wild Northumberland Coast and Durham Cathedral - imho the most magnificent in all its simple Romanesque splendor. And of course SW, Somerset, Devon and Cornwall. And so much more - with amazing Castles and Gardens too.

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Covid aside, I fail to see in how visiting the UK will now be more complicated than before

Before, you had to wait in the long EU passport queue.
Now, you have to wait in the long passport queue.

Key difference is that you are less entitled and have to mix with these loud Americans.

[marton]

	Quote:	TonyClifton
	Turns out it was fake news! More details here: TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO FLOW SMOOTHLY THROUGH THE PORT OF DOVER POST-BREXIT TRANSITION http://www.doverport.co.uk/about/new...the-por/13575/ U.K.-EU Freight Trade Back to 90% of Normal, Port of Dover Says https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-of-dover-says

Seems there are conflicting views

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	Ongoing post-Brexit delays prompts warning on stock shortages & price rises 2/3 of supply chain managers experiencing delays getting goods into the UK since the Brexit transition Sightly better for exports, with 44% experiencing delays of at least two to three days getting goods into the EU

[greenmount]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Before, you had to wait in the long EU passport queue. Now, you have to wait in the long passport queue. Key difference is that you are less entitled and have to mix with these loud Americans.

Haha, I'm probably so used to our second-hand EU status and all the restrictions/discriminations that I usually choose All passports queues - probably instinctively, no shame in mixing up with other peasants like myself.
On a more serious note - often times they're shorter or move along faster.
I was thinking of visas, lol.
I think I'm the least entitled person you can find.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Pachyderm
	How onerous would it be to take your Swiss or Irish passport if you needed to fly to the UK?.

I guess you don't realise it, but most Europeans use their ID cards when travelling in Europe and many don't even bother with getting a passport until the want to leave the continent.

I don't have a passport either at the moment nor to any of my family. We all have Swiss IDs and that is it.

I only found out about it because it seems I'm the only Irish person the teacher knows and was asking for a recommendation. The class don't want to go to the UK because they all have to get passports and four need visas for the sake of one trip.

It will be interesting to see how European tourists approach it. Spontaneous trips will not be part of it.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	I guess you don't realise it, but most Europeans use their ID cards when travelling in Europe and many don't even bother with getting a passport until the want to leave the continent. I don't have a passport either at the moment nor to any of my family. We all have Swiss IDs and that is it. I only found out about it because it seems I'm the only Irish person the teacher knows and was asking for a recommendation. The class don't want to go to the UK because they all have to get passports and four need visas for the sake of one trip. It will be interesting to see how European tourists approach it. Spontaneous trips will not be part of it.

No need to get passports before 30 September, ID cards still accepted. 'Buy whilst stock last'

[JackieH]

Agreed Jim, most of our neighbours do not have passports and use their Swiss ID cards- and among our friends, only those, like us, who have lived abroad for many years and returned, have passports.

[SponPlague]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Before, you had to wait in the long EU passport queue. Now, you have to wait in the long passport queue. Key difference is that you are less entitled and have to mix with these loud Americans.

The real difference these days is whether you have an e-passport or not...

[SponPlague]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	I guess you don't realise it, but most Europeans use their ID cards when travelling in Europe and many don't even bother with getting a passport until the want to leave the continent. I don't have a passport either at the moment nor to any of my family. We all have Swiss IDs and that is it. I only found out about it because it seems I'm the only Irish person the teacher knows and was asking for a recommendation. The class don't want to go to the UK because they all have to get passports and four need visas for the sake of one trip. It will be interesting to see how European tourists approach it. Spontaneous trips will not be part of it.

But as Britain has never been in Schengen, you needed a passport, before, too?

[JackieH]

not at all

[Island Monkey]

	Quote:	greenmount
	I was thinking of visas, lol.

Think they are allowing EU/CH citizens 6 months stay visa free.

	Quote:	SponPlague
	But as Britain has never been in Schengen, you needed a passport, before, too?

They had to accept ID cards whilst part of the EU. Now they won't. Passports only.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	SponPlague
	But as Britain has never been in Schengen, you needed a passport, before, too?

No, nothing to do with Schengen, UK accepted ID cards from EU/CH

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	SponPlague
	But as Britain has never been in Schengen, you needed a passport, before, too?

No they accepted them and will do so up to the 1 of October.