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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Well at least we'll have fewer football hooligans, lager louts etc...
You think?

I can see the headlines now. “Nobody told me that me mates and I had to wait in the frigging queue at Geneva airport for frigging four hours. There aught to be a law.”

But, again the Brits are not being singled out, this rule applies to all third country nationals not resident in Schengen, except for a small handful of EU countries not in Schengen.
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Old 26.02.2021, 10:15
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You think?

I can see the headlines now. “Nobody told me that me mates and I had to wait in the frigging queue at Geneva airport for frigging four hours. There aught to be a law.”

But, again the Brits are not being singled out, this rule applies to all third country nationals not resident in Schengen, except for a small handful of EU countries not in Schengen.
Once you are on the Schengen system, you won’t even be able to get on a plane..
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You think?

I can see the headlines now. “Nobody told me that me mates and I had to wait in the frigging queue at Geneva airport for frigging four hours. There aught to be a law.”

But, again the Brits are not being singled out, this rule applies to all third country nationals not resident in Schengen, except for a small handful of EU countries not in Schengen.
*me an' me mates
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Old 26.02.2021, 16:07
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No need to get passports before 30 September, ID cards still accepted. 'Buy whilst stock last'
OTOH the self-scan things at many airports save you so much time that a passport pays for itself if you travel frequently.
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Old 26.02.2021, 16:08
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The real difference these days is whether you have an e-passport or not...
Does the other type still exist?
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Old 26.02.2021, 16:33
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OTOH the self-scan things at many airports save you so much time that a passport pays for itself if you travel frequently.
Mine on the other hand seldom works, apparently I have a very common name according to the customs officer, he can always read the chip!
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Old 27.02.2021, 11:54
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Well actually the first problem is that you'd have to have the passport to start with.

As of the first of October, visiting the UK will have gone from as simple as visiting Germany to as complicated as planing a trip to the USA.
Is there anyone who doesn't?
I know EU citizens can travel with ID cards only but I don't remember ever doing that - personally. I have both but feel safer with my (biometric) passport. ID card is for home country where they can check everything and I actually need it for every single thing I do there - starting with tax office, civil registry, etc etc etc. but passport is for abroad.
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Is there anyone who doesn't?
I know EU citizens can travel with ID cards only but I don't remember ever doing that - personally. I have both but feel safer with my (biometric) passport.
Swiss too.

My daughter doesn't have a Swiss one, just an ID card, and uses her US passport when out of Europe.

I only travel with mine outside of Europe.

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Swiss too.

My daughter doesn't have a Swiss one, just an ID card, and uses her US passport when out of Europe.

I only travel with mine outside of Europe.

Tom
Lol, my Eastern-European mentality pops up again. I feel the need to gather as many official documents as I can....just in case.

And I'm extremely panicked when I think I lost something because I know how much time it takes to be provided with a new one.
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Old 27.02.2021, 12:34
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Swiss too.

My daughter doesn't have a Swiss one, just an ID card, and uses her US passport when out of Europe.

I only travel with mine outside of Europe.

Tom
We are so used to travelling to places where you cannot just show up with an ID that I wouldn't just think about having only ID to move around with, even within Schengen. It is probably ott.
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We are so used to travelling to places where you cannot just show up with an ID that I wouldn't just think about having only ID to move around with, even within Schengen. It is probably ott.
I have not renewed my Irish passport since 2009, I have just used a Swiss ID card. And the Irish authorities don’t care what documents you use to enter the country. I still get a “welcome home” when I present Swiss ID, as do my kids which always amuses them since they never lived there.
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I have not renewed my Irish passport since 2009, I have just used a Swiss ID card. And the Irish authorities don’t care what documents you use to enter the country. I still get a “welcome home” when I present Swiss ID, as do my kids which always amuses them since they never lived there.
Your last name must be very Irish.

People switch to German with me already before me pulling out my travel documents.
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Old 27.02.2021, 14:02
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Only had one 'bad' experience at the border here. When we still lived in UK and had to come running (as so many times) because my mum had taken a turn for the worse. Arrived at border with hire car with AI plates of course, asked for documents so handed over my British Passport and Driving Licence- speaking with a local accent- it just did compute for them. Over to side- wait - went to check papers and returned with a 'ok then' - so I smiled and said ' wow what a welcome to come home to' - startled he asked where I was going - when I told him who my parents were, they were all apologetic. Hilarious.
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Old 27.02.2021, 14:07
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Only had one 'bad' experience at the border here. When we still lived in UK and had to come running (as so many times) because my mum had taken a turn for the worse. Arrived at border with hire car with AI plates of course, asked for documents so handed over my British Passport and Driving Licence- speaking with a local accent- it just did compute for them. Over to side- wait - went to check papers and returned with a 'ok then' - so I smiled and said ' wow what a welcome to come home to' - startled he asked where I was going - when I told him who my parents were, they were all apologetic. Hilarious.
I think attitudes of border guards have changed massively over the years. 30 years ago they were much more pedantic and anal than they are now. I remember frequently having to open my bags. It hasn't happened to me once in the last 20 years or so.

Maybe it's also to do with growing older. Maybe they tend to be tougher on young folks.
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Old 27.02.2021, 14:35
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I think attitudes of border guards have changed massively over the years. 30 years ago they were much more pedantic and anal than they are now. I remember frequently having to open my bags. It hasn't happened to me once in the last 20 years or so.

Maybe it's also to do with growing older. Maybe they tend to be tougher on young folks.
It happened to me only when I had (forgot) silly things like a manicure set or cosmetics or something like that in my hand luggage. Not many times though as I'm aware of the existing rules.

I never take it personally. I think most of them are just doing their job.
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Only had one 'bad' experience at the border here. When we still lived in UK and had to come running (as so many times) because my mum had taken a turn for the worse. Arrived at border with hire car with AI plates of course, asked for documents so handed over my British Passport and Driving Licence- speaking with a local accent- it just did compute for them. Over to side- wait - went to check papers and returned with a 'ok then' - so I smiled and said ' wow what a welcome to come home to' - startled he asked where I was going - when I told him who my parents were, they were all apologetic. Hilarious.
That hardly qualified as a bad experience assuming you have told the full story.

I have even been asked if the trainers I was wearing were bought in France, I had no other shoes of any description in the car which they had spent 30 minutes checking, clutching at straws in desperation having wasted so much time
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I have not renewed my Irish passport since 2009, I have just used a Swiss ID card. And the Irish authorities don’t care what documents you use to enter the country. I still get a “welcome home” when I present Swiss ID, as do my kids which always amuses them since they never lived there.
Kids are happy to be part of larger groups. My kids know that we might be "alone" here but they do have a proper extended family in their parents home country. And they're always happy when they hear Romanian - their native language. It's funny when we go to holidays in Italy - "What? You can speak Romanian here?" I explained them that many people from my country work there and they are happy to converse with their countrymen whenever they get the chance. In many cases they spoke Italian native level already and if they didn't tell me I would have never guessed.
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That hardly qualified as a bad experience assuming you have told the full story.

I have even been asked if the trainers I was wearing were bought in France, I had no other shoes of any description in the car which they had spent 30 minutes checking, clutching at straws in desperation having wasted so much time
Once when coming back from Barcelona, a customs agent at Geneva airport found some clothes in my bag that he considered to be new and asked if I had the receipt. I said no, I didn't. So he searched my wallet and found a receipt from McDonalds, clearly labelled as being from McDonalds and itemized as such and asked if that was the receipt for the clothes. At that point I decided to give up so I told him I couldn't remember what the receipt was for but if he thought it was for the clothes then he was more of an expert than I was. So having decided the value was under the limit, he allowed me to proceed.

And once coming back from Hungary, I was stopped in Buchs SG with quite a few wines and spirits that I had acquired, plus also two bottles of "home made" spirits that were in coke bottles. The customs guy sorted my bottles and calculated the alcohol and decided I was just under the limit. He had places both "coke" bottles back into my bag without even looking at them. Obviously nothing struck him as being wrong with coke being transparent. On the other hand he spent a considerable amount of time trying to pry open the mirror cabinet above the wash basin (this was on the sleeper train) without realizing the hinges were on the other side, before he managed to hit himself in the face with it.

So maybe he had drunk too much of the moonshine himself already.
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Only had one 'bad' experience at the border here. When we still lived in UK and had to come running (as so many times) because my mum had taken a turn for the worse. Arrived at border with hire car with AI plates of course, asked for documents so handed over my British Passport and Driving Licence- speaking with a local accent- it just did compute for them. Over to side- wait - went to check papers and returned with a 'ok then' - so I smiled and said ' wow what a welcome to come home to' - startled he asked where I was going - when I told him who my parents were, they were all apologetic. Hilarious.
Had a funny experience in Basel once. I was looking around for different opportunities and found a small champagne producer near Reims in France.
Filled my car with bottles of champagne for resale, got to the border, and stopped to declare it all. The border guard refused to talk to me and just kept telling me to drive on, so eventually, I did just that.
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Back to Brexit- Foster and the DUP are truly up to no good- diabolical hypocrits of the worst order. It won't end well !
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