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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 21.03.2021, 10:57
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How the British became the new Turks.

https://www.economist.com/europe/202...-the-new-turks




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Old 21.03.2021, 11:48
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Just watched this again- I love this other Leicester girl

https://fb.watch/4mPWQxiLxC/
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Old 27.03.2021, 19:07
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Whisky, cheese and chocolate producers have suffered the biggest post-Brexit export losses in the food and drink sector, new figures from HMRC have shown.

Analysis of the figures by the Food and Drink Federation (FDF) shows that cheese exports in January plummeted from £45m to £7m year on year, while whisky exports nosedived from £105m to £40m. Chocolate exports went from £41.4m to just £13m, a decline of 68%.

Exports of some other goods such as salmon and beef almost stopped altogether, with declines of 98% and 92% respectively, but by value they were the 7th and 4th biggest losers of the top 10 exports to the EU.

Overall, trade in fish, thanks partly to a complete ban on the exports of certain live shellfish, dropped by 79%.
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I had hoped February would be better but
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Co-founder of Cheshire Cheese Company, Simon Spurrell was told by the environment minister, Victoria Prentis, to look at US and Canada markets rather than EU after his cheese export business collapsed.
Simon was hoping for advice on how to recover his EU trade.
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Old 27.03.2021, 20:19
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I had hoped February would be better but

Simon was hoping for advice on how to recover his EU trade.
Simple, move his production to Europe.
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Old 27.03.2021, 21:14
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Simple, move his production to Europe.
I imagine it is difficult to label cheese as Cheshire cheese when it is produced in mainland Europe.
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I imagine it is difficult to label cheese as Cheshire cheese when it is produced in mainland Europe.
Just spell it Tzeshire, nobody would notice.
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Old 27.03.2021, 21:25
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I imagine it is difficult to label cheese as Cheshire cheese when it is produced in mainland Europe.
Why?

Most Emmental is not made in Switzerland!

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Old 28.03.2021, 03:14
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Why?

Most Emmental is not made in Switzerland!

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And a heck of a lot more Champagne is made outside France than inside.
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Old 28.03.2021, 11:47
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Well yes, but AOC and IGP rules are complicated.

We have a 7 generation Champagne House here, originally came from Alsace to produce Champagne in an old Clunisian Abbey where monks were thrown out at the time of Reformation. All made with the proper Champenoise method and they win many international prizes. For a long time, they could put 'Méthode Champenoise' on the bottle, but not call their produce Champagne. They are no longer allowed to do that even. Well worth a visit btw. Mauler is in Môtiers, NE-. https://www.mauler.ch/fr/ you can buy their very basic bubbly in Denner and other retailers, but they also do much better Champagnes, white wine, Oeil de Perdrix, Pinot Noir, etc.

On the other side of the mountain, on the Vaud side - there is a village which has been called Champagne for hundreds of years (very close to another village called 'Provence') - it produces excellent white wine (no Champagne btw) - but the word Champagne cannot be mentionned anywhere on the bottle! Not even 'Produced in Champagne, VD, Suisse'. Just ridiculous.

Guryères has much better protection with AOC than Emmental. It cannot be made with cows fed on silage, and all sorts of other regulations. But the French actually also produce some 'Gruyères' cheese - and the ridiculous rule is that it has to have holes! Gruyères production does not produce holes- so they have to use a small spoon to artificially make holes in the French Gruyères, to make it legal. Nosnsense.

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Old 28.03.2021, 12:42
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the French actually also produce some 'Gruyères' cheese - and the ridiculous rule is that it has to have holes! Gruyères production does not produce holes- so they have to use a small spoon to artificially make holes in the French Gruyères, to make it legal. Nosnsense.
That's because the French think of Emmenthal and Gruyere as the same thing (at least, they did in 1975 when I lived there).

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Old 28.03.2021, 13:04
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Sparkling wine maybe - not Champagne. Even sparkling wine made in France outside of the Champagne region cannot be called Champagne.
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Old 28.03.2021, 13:19
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Sparkling wine maybe - not Champagne. Even sparkling wine made in France outside of the Champagne region cannot be called Champagne.
It can in the US, and probably some other countries.

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Old 28.03.2021, 13:36
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It can in the US, and probably some other countries.

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it is illegal for an American winery to create a new wine label using the word Champagne, due to a 2006 trade agreement between the U.S. and the European Union.
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Old 28.03.2021, 13:56
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it is illegal for an American winery to create a new wine label using the word Champagne, due to a 2006 trade agreement between the U.S. and the European Union.
Perhaps, but there are plenty already!

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Perhaps, but there are plenty already!

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Perhaps, but a lot of it is crap. The US government being much more interested in campaign contributions than honesty. Even when it’s US consumers that are being lied to.
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Sparkling wine maybe - not Champagne. Even sparkling wine made in France outside of the Champagne region cannot be called Champagne.
Precisely my point.
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https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/looph...ampagne-legal/

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I notice the £ is now 1.30 to the Swiss franc, stronger than on 21 August 2011 thats almost 5 years before the referendum.
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I notice the £ is now 1.30 to the Swiss franc, stronger than on 21 August 2011 thats almost 5 years before the referendum.
I guess you won't get people with UK pensions celebrating this. Just moaning when the franc is strong.
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A month after a new process to exchange driving licences was due to go live Britons in France remain unable to access it with UK authorities admitting that the delay is because no reciprocal agreement between the UK and France is in place.

All UK licence holders have to exchange their licences, they have a year to do it.
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