The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[JackieH]

This made me laugh today, no idea who wrote it

THE NEWS THIS WEEK.

A liar has accused liars of lying. The liars responded by lying and said the liar was lying. This news was brought to you by liars who have lied about the liars and the liar, but please keep reading our lies, voting for the liars and above all, keep believing the lies.

[Necromancer]

	Quote:	JackieH
	This made me laugh today, no idea who wrote it THE NEWS THIS WEEK. A liar has accused liars of lying. The liars responded by lying and said the liar was lying. This news was brought to you by liars who have lied about the liars and the liar, but please keep reading our lies, voting for the liars and above all, keep believing the lies.

Call me a cynic, but the news that politicians tell lies ( yes...shock , horror, from both the left and the right...) is another nugget of information straight from the department of the bleedin-obvious.

[henk]

UK to begin accession process to join trans-Pacific trade bloc

Another rules-based trading system, not bigger, and on the other side of the earth.

Truly hilarious...

[amogles]

	Quote:	henk
	UK to begin accession process to join trans-Pacific trade bloc Another rules-based trading system, not bigger, and on the other side of the earth. Truly hilarious...

Do the membership rules state that you cannot join any other trade bloc besides?

[marton]

	Quote:	amogles
	Do the membership rules state that you cannot join any other trade bloc besides?

It is more like joining the World Trade Organization (WTO) than a regular free trade agreement. Australia is a member so the UK will need to somehow align with the proposed UK/Australia FTA.

The rule that countries must border the Pacific was dropped.

There are no regular planned meetings of all members so the handling of the UK application process is likely to be very slow.

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	It is more like joining the World Trade Organization (WTO) than a regular free trade agreement. Australia is a member so the UK will need to somehow align with the proposed UK/Australia FTA. The rule that countries must border the Pacific was dropped. There are no regular planned meetings of all members so the handling of the UK application process is likely to be very slow.

I'm sure there must be some bits of islands that are part of the UK that do border the Pacific.

Maybe Global Britain could sell hundred year leases of little bits of such islands to people like Switzerland so they can join too.

[TonyClifton]

	Quote:	amogles
	I'm sure there must be some bits of islands that are part of the UK that do border the Pacific. Maybe Global Britain could sell hundred year leases of little bits of such islands to people like Switzerland so they can join too.

The Pitcairn Islands, thanks to Fletcher Christian and the Mutiny on the Bounty. We'll take em!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands

[henk]

only 7 countries have actually ratified CPTPP to date. Also that it isn't a particularly 'free trade zone', just an agreement to preferential terms above WTO in terms of tariffs.

[John William]

This made me laugh out loud today & will keep me giggling for the rest of the week.

Oh the irony !! Tim Martin calling for a return to EU migration to the UK to fix his big bar staff
shortage problem at JD Wetherspoons.
Dare I say it ? - You got what you voted for Tim.


London Economic - Tim Martin calls for more EU migration as Wetherspoons hit by bar staff shortage

[JackieH]

yep, Project Fear he said ... once again, you just could not make it up.

No Brits want to work for him anyhow, as he chose to sack everyone due to Covid, Brit or not- no attempt whatsoever to furlough them at all.

What comes round goes around - good!

[marton]

Carrie Symonds now being referred to as the first lady but unofficial estimates suggest she is at least the eighth lady.

[John William]

I thought the ECJ - namely the European Court of Justice was no longer the penultimate
Supreme court for UK citizens to get final judgement on their cases, following final
Brexit on the 31st December 2020 with the British Supreme Court having the final and
last say on all such cases in post-Brexit Britain.

Then I see this in the news about Tesco workers in the UK.

BBC News - Tesco staff win legal agrument in equal pay fight

[JackieH]

	Quote:	marton
	Carrie Symonds now being referred to as the first lady but unofficial estimates suggest she is at least the eighth lady.

More often called Princess Nutnut.

[John William]

The Liechtenstein trade deal

Surely Liz Truss, the UK's Secretary of State for International Trade will get a big rebuke from the
Ambassador for the Grand Duchy of Fenwick, for not including them before their biggest rival
Liechtenstein !! - Shame on her !!

In fact I've been watching BBC News tonight and not a mention of Liechtenstein ? maybe they are
being coy about the Liechtenstein deal in case the mouse roars again in Grand Fenwick.



The Mouse that roared in Grand Fenwick

BBC News - UK announces trade deal with Norway, Iceland & Liechtenstein
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	Quote:	John William
	I thought the ECJ - namely the European Court of Justice was no longer the penultimate Supreme court for UK citizens to get final judgement on their cases, following final Brexit on the 31st December 2020 with the British Supreme Court having the final and last say on all such cases in post-Brexit Britain. Then I see this in the news about Tesco workers in the UK. BBC News - Tesco staff win legal agrument in equal pay fight

	Quote:	John William
	The Liechtenstein trade deal Surely Liz Truss, the UK's Secretary of State for International Trade will get a big rebuke from the Ambassador for the Grand Duchy of Fenwick, for not including them before their biggest rival Liechtenstein !! - Shame on her !! In fact I've been watching BBC News tonight and not a mention of Liechtenstein ? maybe they are being coy about the Liechtenstein deal in case the mouse roars again in Grand Fenwick. The Mouse that roared in Grand Fenwick BBC News - UK announces trade deal with Norway, Iceland & Liechtenstein .

@John William: please do not hit "Enter" on your keyboard at the end of every line of text that you type. It screws up the formatting when your posts are viewed on devices of different sizes.

EF has a newfangled feature that automatically produces line breaks and wraps your text to the next line—all without using the "Enter" key! I hope this catches on and we see this new technology in word processing software one day.

[bowlie]

	Quote:	John William
	I thought the ECJ - namely the European Court of Justice was no longer the penultimate Supreme court for UK citizens to get final judgement on their cases, following final Brexit on the 31st December 2020 with the British Supreme Court having the final and last say on all such cases in post-Brexit Britain. Then I see this in the news about Tesco workers in the UK. BBC News - Tesco staff win legal agrument in equal pay fight

EU laws were incorporated into UK laws by Parliament. The ECJ was acting on the EU law and their ruling would apply in all EU member states. UK courts could consider the ECJ ruling in their interpretation of the UK law, they might not.

[John William]

@22yards - I can see the text perfectly well - what browser or format are you using ? and rather than say EF has a newfangled feature - why not include the link to it.

Maybe you should screen print what you see on your screen as on my screen it looks ok.
Finally by different devices you mean reading forums on mobiles it matters not to me, as I'm averse to reading forums on mobiles, if thats the point of your gripe. It's down to EF to make the site compatible for different devices & platforms, not me.

It's like Whatsapp - why put up with typing an important message through the mobile qwerty keyboard that
can be a pain & tedious when you can download the Whatsapp App to your Laptop and type the
message in perfectly through the Whatsapp App on your Laptop keyboard.

	Quote:	John William
	@22yards - I can see the text perfectly well - what browser or format are you using ? and rather than say EF has a newfangled feature - why not include the link to it.

He was using gentle sarcasm. The “new“ feature has been around for 40 years or more.

The point is to use the enter key as a paragraph end only and to let the machines play with line width to fit each user’s screen within the paragraph.

I remember fighting this battle 30+ years ago with those that had only ever used typewriters.

[bowlie]

And don’t remind us of the double space after a full stop.

[JackieH]

	Quote:	JackieH
	More often called Princess Nutnut.

And Tom groans again- Princess Nutnut has been her nickname for a very long time, and I have NOT invented it. But hey ho ...

Tim Martin bleating about shortage of stuff is just beyond stupid. And he is not the only one:

From the London Economic

''UK businesses are warning of a staffing crisis this summer caused by gaps left by EU workers who have returned home because of Brexit and the pandemic.

Jobs vacancies in the country are soaring, according to a KPMG report, but there are not enough workers to fill them.

The easing of Covid restrictions and reopening of various sectors meant demand for workers rose at its fastest rate in May for more than 23 years.

But the number of staff available to fill those jobs declined at the quickest rate since 2017.''

This is the official report from KPMG, not some left wing paper.