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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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From Wiki.
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Jersey is a distinct jurisdiction for the purposes of conflict of laws, separate from the other Channel Islands, England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland
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Prior to the UK’s departure from the European Union (EU), Jersey’s relationship with the EU was set out in Protocol 3 of the UK's 1972 Accession Treaty. In practice, this mean the Island was treated as part of the European Union for the purposes of free trade in goods, but otherwise was not a part of the EU.

Following the UK referendum on EU membership, one of our key objectives was to protect, as far as possible, the Island’s key interests – including our relationship with our European partners.

Jersey’s relationship is now enshrined in our membership of the UK-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA), which was reached prior to the end of the Transition Period on 31 December 2020. This means that Jersey goods bound for the EU are treated as they would if they come from the UK.

In addition to the practical implications of the UK’s exit, Jersey has maintained long-standing relationships – politically, economically and culturally – with our closest French neighbours and partners across the EU.

The Channel Islands Brussels Office (CIBO) makes sure that Jersey’s interests are promoted in Europe, and acts as the central engagement point with Brussels and within other multilateral fora.
Sorry to be a pedant.
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From Wiki. and from the Jersey Governments web-site

Sorry to be a pedant.
Thank you for confirming Jersey did Brexit and their external affairs are led by the UK. Their formal link with the EU is via the UK/EU "Brexit" trade deal which, contrary to your earlier post ("I don’t understand why Boris, et al, are even involved"), is why the UK Parliament has the right to be involved in their EU trade deal dispute with the French.
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Thank you for confirming Jersey did Brexit and their external affairs are led by the UK. Their formal link with the EU is via the UK/EU "Brexit" trade deal which, contrary to your earlier post ("I don’t understand why Boris, et al, are even involved"), is why the UK Parliament has the right to be involved in their EU trade deal dispute with the French.
Jersey didn't BREXIT because it was never in it. (that is neither Britain (BR), nor the EU). How can you exit something you are not in.
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Following the Channel Islands, Jersey fishing rights fracas we are fortunate enough to have the
opinion of the current generation of malcontents; as represented by Captain Edmund Blackadder,
summing up Britain's place in the world very nicely.

Captain Blackadder gives his opinion on Britain's military status in the world
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I see Switzerland has refused to cooperate with the EU

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/sw...153148685.html
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I see Switzerland has refused to cooperate with the EU

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/sw...153148685.html
Not exactly. They have told the EU that the deal they propose is unlikely to be adopted by Parliament or be agreed by the people. Don’t see how the EU can really disagree with direct democracy.
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Not exactly. They have told the EU that the deal they propose is unlikely to be adopted by Parliament or be agreed by the people. Don’t see how the EU can really disagree with direct democracy.

For a EU bureaucrat to fathom direct democracy is actually a loooooong stretch.
On the light side:
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There is another thread on this.
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Not exactly. They have told the EU that the deal they propose is unlikely to be adopted by Parliament or be agreed by the people. Don’t see how the EU can really disagree with direct democracy.

I hope you were being sarcastic
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I see Switzerland has refused to cooperate with the EU

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/sw...153148685.html
Interesting too is that it failed on two of the big sticking points of Brexit, freedom of movement/workers rights and dynamic alignment. One would think the EU may start to get the message although I do doubt it.
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Interesting too is that it failed on two of the big sticking points of Brexit, freedom of movement/workers rights and dynamic alignment. One would think the EU may start to get the message although I do doubt it.
And to think they didn't even get around to the constitutional amendment about votes having to be repeated until they produce the desired outcome.
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£ shot up versus CHF today........
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£ shot up versus CHF today........
Haha, less than 0.5% gain today, it was as high in the last week & higher in the last month / last 3 months.
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Woohoo! Long-term British expats get their voting right back:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-56265898


I guess now that Brexit is done, Boris does not care that they vote.

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Woohoo! Long-term British expats get their voting right back:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-56265898


I guest now that Brexit is done, Boris does not care that they vote.
Well

“ A Treasury spokesman said legislation would be laid before Parliament later this year to bring about the reform.” so it is just a possibility.

And it only returns the right to vote for parliament, not necessarily for referendum.
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Dominic Cummings admits Remain should have won. Quote: . . . . . .

Appearing in front of a select committee, the former aide of Boris Johnson told MPs “it’s perfectly reasonable
to have the view that Remain should have won”. In 2017 Cummings admitted Vote Leave won because they lied to the public.


London Economic - Cummings says it's perfectly reasonable to think Remain should have won
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Dominic Cummings admits Remain should have won. Quote: . . . . . .

Appearing in front of a select committee, the former aide of Boris Johnson told MPs “it’s perfectly reasonable
to have the view that Remain should have won”. In 2017 Cummings admitted Vote Leave won because they lied to the public.


London Economic - Cummings says it's perfectly reasonable to think Remain should have won

The left in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 thought Cummings is the anti-christ & could not be trusted in anything he said.

The left in 2021 think Cummings is the new Messiah & his words must not be doubted
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This made me laugh today, no idea who wrote it

THE NEWS THIS WEEK.

A liar has accused liars of lying. The liars responded by lying and said the liar was lying. This news was brought to you by liars who have lied about the liars and the liar, but please keep reading our lies, voting for the liars and above all, keep believing the lies.
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This made me laugh today, no idea who wrote it

THE NEWS THIS WEEK.

A liar has accused liars of lying. The liars responded by lying and said the liar was lying. This news was brought to you by liars who have lied about the liars and the liar, but please keep reading our lies, voting for the liars and above all, keep believing the lies.
Call me a cynic, but the news that politicians tell lies ( yes...shock , horror, from both the left and the right...) is another nugget of information straight from the department of the bleedin-obvious.
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UK to begin accession process to join trans-Pacific trade bloc

Another rules-based trading system, not bigger, and on the other side of the earth.

Truly hilarious...
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