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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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I will have to stand on a box too - only one grand-daughter is still about 2 cm shorter than me!

Yes, from 2017 - and still so so relevant now. And yes, I do wonder how reality is hitting them- although it seems there are an awful lot of heads in sand. 2017 when they said it was all 'project fear' and that there would be NO downsides (Gove) - and now turning out to be Project Reality (on speed).

With Halloween coming up perhaps the ghost of Margaret Thatcher will come back to haunt the Tory Party.
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With Halloween coming up perhaps the ghost of Margaret Thatcher will come back to haunt the Tory Party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuvi_TxC4XY
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Old 23.10.2021, 02:40
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Well, obviously, I’m more optimistic than you are. But yes, I think it is possible because it would benefit all of the above. No hard border with Ireland, for example.
It is not a matter of optimism it’s a matter of procedure. It is set out in black and white in the treaty what the procedure is for a new member to be accepted and indeed it furthermore states that former members must follow the procedure for new members.
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''Brexit: Majority of older Leave voters say significant economic damage is 'price worth paying', finds YouGov...
...as long as it's someone else paying that price
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Private Water companies have been pouring raw sewage into the Channel all along the South coast. The reason is directly linked to Brexit, as the chemicals for treating water are getting in short supply, and only relatively small amounts stored in UK, and come from abroad - so they are trying to cut down. The e-coli problem has been solved, for now- but there are huge concerns for the rest of winter.

No time to look for links now as I have a doctor's appointment soon, sorry.

Before I go, here is just one- plenty out there to look for

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mical-shortage
Unfortunately, this issue is getting worse by the day

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...age-discharges


https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/ne...orset-beaches/

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Old 23.10.2021, 15:25
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"DO NOT SWIM" notices going up from Southend in Essex to Lyme Regis in Dorset because of all the raw sewage being pumped into the ocean.
Not even dogs are advised to go in any more.
Thanks Brexit. It used to be nice when our water was protected -

if you want 'solid' evidence- it is floating in the sea.
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Tragically, the issue with raw sewage pumped into waterways it turning out to be more than real.

I wonder when the French will begin to sue for polluting their side of the Channel, fish and shellfish, and then others like Holland, Germany, etc.

From The Times:

Whitstable’s oyster festival ended yesterday with growers concerned that untreated sewage is still responsible for poisoning customers.

The north Kent town which has been renowned for its seafood since Roman times has seen business suffer because of a series of leaks.

Owners of other oyster beds along the coast have previously raised concerns about damage from pollution caused by untreated sewage.

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Literally a sh*tshow, sigh.
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Tragically, the issue with raw sewage pumped into waterways it turning out to be more than real.

I wonder when the French will begin to sue for polluting their side of the Channel, fish and shellfish, and then others like Holland, Germany, etc.

From The Times:

Whitstable’s oyster festival ended yesterday with growers concerned that untreated sewage is still responsible for poisoning customers.

The north Kent town which has been renowned for its seafood since Roman times has seen business suffer because of a series of leaks.

Owners of other oyster beds along the coast have previously raised concerns about damage from pollution caused by untreated sewage.
Im lost. So if we have voted to stay in the EU, our water treatment systems would have been upgraded ?
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Old 27.10.2021, 11:48
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Im lost. So if we have voted to stay in the EU, our water treatment systems would have been upgraded ?
If we'd stayed in the EU then the laws against discharging raw sewage would not have been changed.
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Funny as I thought anyone who wanted to leave wasn’t so stupid to s*it in their own backyard. Obviously I was wrong.
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And in the meantime, Eustice serves notice to the EU of non-recognition of EU mineral waters!

From 7 January, all those waters like, Evian, San Pelegríno etc etc will be no more in the UK, to promote UK mineral waters.
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And in the meantime, Eustice serves notice to the EU of non-recognition of EU mineral waters!

From 7 January, all those waters like, Evian, San Pelegríno etc etc will be no more in the UK, to promote UK mineral waters.
This is actually something I would agree with. As someone who happily drinks tap water wherever I am, the concept of shipping water around the world seems obscene e.g. San Pellegrino to smart restaurants in San Francisco
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This is actually something I would agree with. As someone who happily drinks tap water wherever I am, the concept of shipping water around the world seems obscene e.g. San Pellegrino to smart restaurants in San Francisco
Fiji water to anywhere but Fiji, in heavy tinted bottles. Insanity.
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If we'd stayed in the EU then the laws against discharging raw sewage would not have been changed.
and the supply of chemicals to treat the sewage would not have been curtailed.
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This is actually something I would agree with. As someone who happily drinks tap water wherever I am, the concept of shipping water around the world seems obscene e.g. San Pellegrino to smart restaurants in San Francisco
And you really think the ship it.... I seem to remember a big expose a few years back where it was discovered that filling San Pellegrino bottle in the back yard was a thing in certain establishments especially in Zurich.
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Im lost. So if we have voted to stay in the EU, our water treatment systems would have been upgraded ?
Of course not, an outdated sewer system, increased population and supply chain issues have meant water companies have had to increase the number of raw sewage discharges. A practice that has been taking place since forever.

Unfortunately Long FBPE is a very serious condition affecting a great number of people, whereby every problem and setback is blamed on Brexit. Be compassionate and understanding to these sufferers, and whatever you do, don't mention red busses.
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And in the meantime, Eustice serves notice to the EU of non-recognition of EU mineral waters!

From 7 January, all those waters like, Evian, San Pelegríno etc etc will be no more in the UK, to promote UK mineral waters.
Actually the official notification states that it applies to the importation in to England not the UK....

I gather from Irish news, that the water companies are considering taking a case to the EJC on Ballygowan's favoured position. Frosty might get very upset if the ECJ was to make a ruling on the NI protocol....

This not very well thought out at all.
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And in the meantime, Eustice serves notice to the EU of non-recognition of EU mineral waters!

From 7 January, all those waters like, Evian, San Pelegríno etc etc will be no more in the UK, to promote UK mineral waters.
That was over three months ago?

The European Commission warned in 2018 that, after Brexit, all British natural mineral water producers will be considered as operating from a “third country”. That means they will not be recognised as European waters and won’t be able to export their water to the EU.

Anyway, the UK market for bottled water is small, in Italy and Germany, people drink close to 200 litres of bottled water per year while the British get through just 36 litres per year.
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This is actually something I would agree with. As someone who happily drinks tap water wherever I am, the concept of shipping water around the world seems obscene e.g. San Pellegrino to smart restaurants in San Francisco

Yes, totally agree here. Although Evian is not quite that far ...I don't drink bottled water myself anyhow.

What caught my eye was the timing and the circumstances!
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