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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Amazing what happened in Poland today. It's like triggering an exit without a referendum or even a democratic decision.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-constitution
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Where does this idea come from, that if you are anti Brexit, and think Johnson is the worst PM ever - that makes you 'left wing'? Bizarre.

Were Churchill, Edward Heath, Maggie Thatcher ... left wingers?

It is also weird to be called Tory Lite, by so many so called left wingers, who are pro Brexit. Stereotypes are so often nonsense.
"Left wing" is not the worst thing that could be assumed about someone though.....
I guess people need to label and "figure you out"....it makes them happy. lol


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Amazing what happened in Poland today. It's like triggering an exit without a referendum or even a democratic decision.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-constitution

Yeah, not good, but I don't think it will happen. There are a lot of well-balanced, good-head-on-their-shoulders people, in Poland.
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Old 08.10.2021, 12:58
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There are a lot of well-balanced, good-head-on-their-shoulders people, in Poland.
Maybe but such people are very hard to find in the Polish government sadly.
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Old 08.10.2021, 14:14
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Amazing what happened in Poland today. It's like triggering an exit without a referendum or even a democratic decision.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-constitution
Maybe Switzerland should pay attention, this looks like a way to stop FMOP while still being part of the EU market.

And since CH would be a net payer the countermeasure the EU seems to plan for against Poland wouldn't work with CH.
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Old 08.10.2021, 15:02
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Maybe Switzerland should pay attention, this looks like a way to stop FMOP while still being part of the EU market.

And since CH would be a net payer the countermeasure the EU seems to plan for against Poland wouldn't work with CH.
What....?

Did you even read the article or are you writing random thoughts here? lol
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Old 08.10.2021, 16:13
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What....?

Did you even read the article or are you writing random thoughts here? lol
I cut things a little short, and left out the obvious requirement of joining the EU first.
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Old 08.10.2021, 16:39
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I just love Rachel- a great Leicester girl, like me- and I used to teach her brother.

This has NOT aged well, has it? And not a single mention of HGV drivers either!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Rema...1506082124066/
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Old 08.10.2021, 18:12
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or in the UK that has treated them so badly and kicked them out?
No one has been "kicked out". Any EU citizens who wanted to stay has been able to stay. Despite the assumption of a mass exodus, somewhere between 4 and 6 million (depending on which news report you choose to believe) have done so.
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Old 08.10.2021, 21:52
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Well obviously not enough, same for nurses, carers, agricultural workers, abatoir workers, butchers - the list is long.

Now, like JOB or not, he is totally spot on here. The arrogance, the dishonesty, the hypocrisy and the sheer gall is exposed here. How often were we told right here on EF, by some members, that warnings were just project fear, and now they claim, as Johnson and the Government,, that it was always the plan all along, always known, always clear. Did they write this on that bus? No they did NOT.

This is it

https://fb.watch/8wohdIgr1E/

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No one has been "kicked out". Any EU citizens who wanted to stay has been able to stay. Despite the assumption of a mass exodus, somewhere between 4 and 6 million (depending on which news report you choose to believe) have done so.
I suppose you choose DM or maybe not, maybe other conservative newspapers... I have that gut feeling.

Sorry, judging by your other posts here. I am not saying you're a bad person, mind. I wish you a happy life. It is not entirely your fault that you have certain opinions.
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Old 08.10.2021, 22:51
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No one has been "kicked out". Any EU citizens who wanted to stay has been able to stay. Despite the assumption of a mass exodus, somewhere between 4 and 6 million (depending on which news report you choose to believe) have done so.
It is worth reading the UK office for national statistic report on this topic to throw some light into the darkness.
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Old 08.10.2021, 23:41
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

Or in other words - rubbish!

As Council drivers are switching to HGV driving for hauliers, attracted by higher wages ...

The result - rubbish, literally! And with all the extra packaging and food, etc, for Christmas.

Currently issues in Surrey with e-coli in drinking water- as Councils start to ration water treatment sanitizers due to forecast massive shortage.
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Old 12.10.2021, 10:27
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

British companies pushed the number of workers on payrolls above pre-coronavirus levels last month, a great recovery. Separate figures from the Office for National Statistics showed job vacancies rose to 1.2 million, also an all-time high.

There is roughly the same number of unemployed but likely their skill levels are not a good fit with the vacancies. Two of the three areas with the highest vacancies are "health and social work" and "professional, scientific and technical", where the skilled workers will come from for these areas without an easy immigration path is a good question.
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Old 12.10.2021, 10:40
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Currently issues in Surrey with e-coli in drinking water
What has an e-coli outbreak got to do with Brexit? An expert wrote:

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as Councils start to ration water treatment sanitizers due to forecast massive shortage.
Have you got a link?
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Private Water companies have been pouring raw sewage into the Channel all along the South coast. The reason is directly linked to Brexit, as the chemicals for treating water are getting in short supply, and only relatively small amounts stored in UK, and come from abroad - so they are trying to cut down. The e-coli problem has been solved, for now- but there are huge concerns for the rest of winter.

No time to look for links now as I have a doctor's appointment soon, sorry.

Before I go, here is just one- plenty out there to look for

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mical-shortage
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What has an e-coli outbreak got to do with Brexit? An expert wrote:





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SES Water lifts tap boil notice as 'no indication' E. coli contamination escaped treatment works
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

The UK is out of Europe, to get back in they would need to re-apply and be accepted, a feat which would probably be difficult in view of the tensions caused over Brexit.


GET OVER IT and move on, stop crying over spilt milk !!
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The UK is out of Europe, to get back in they would need to re-apply and be accepted, a feat which would probably be difficult in view of the tensions caused over Brexit.


GET OVER IT and move on, stop crying over spilt milk !!
It was not "spilt milk", it was a democratic decision.
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Old 12.10.2021, 18:47
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

The e-coli warning was indeed lifted- but raw sewage continues to be poured into the waterways, and the shortage of chemicals is becoming more acute. So it is of great concern, and increasingly so. Did you read the Bloomberg link?

Here is another one from a reputable source

https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/...014397.article

''The Chemical Business Association, which represents the UK chemicals supply chain, found that 96% of its members are now experiencing issues with UK haulage, up from 63% in its last survey in June. It warned the government back in June that driver shortages would affect the supply of critical chemicals for the water and agriculture industry.

‘The supply chain situation in the UK is deteriorating,’ says Tim Doggett, the CBA’s chief executive. ‘We believe the impact of driver shortages is likely to get worse before it gets better.’ The chemical industry is likely to be worse hit than other sectors, he adds, because of the requirement for additional qualifications for drivers carrying hazardous substances.''
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Old 12.10.2021, 19:34
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Unfortunately, it seems inevitable that supply chains are going to go through more disruption

https://news.sky.com/story/hgv-drive...cklog-12432213
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