The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[John William]

	Quote:	Axa
	Same for Putin and Chinese submarines

Oi ! Surely Putty deserves a little attention after going to all the trouble of gathering his forces on the border with Ukraine before Christmas ?

[grumpygrapefruit]

	Quote:	3Wishes
	I was watching a news report the other day after the big drowning incident with the capsized boat. Some of the migrants in the camp at Calais told the reporters that the UK has always been the target destination, even if they have to cross several EU countries to get there. The reason is they think benefits are better in the UK for families, and some felt they could get along better in English.

It's also down to the fact that the UK is the easiest country in Europe to liove under the radar. It's not difficult to find someone to employ you for cash, you can easily rent a room without any registration documents (in fact the UK doesn't even give these out).

I moved back to the UK earlier year and opened a bank account, I didn't need to show any proof that I was allowed to live here, I just sent a scan of my passport and a scan of a letter showing my name with my address, but that would have been easy to forge.

Once you have a flat/room and a bank account, you can do almost anything here and no one will question your legality.

[Biro]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	And the BS will continue until such time as the UK recognises this.

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be possible in the current climate

[marton]

On October 31, 2021, the United States and the European Union announced that they had reached an agreement on the lifting of US tariffs of 25 percent on imports of steel from the EU and 10 percent on imports of aluminum from the EU that were imposed under Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962.

The agreement will become effective on January 1, 2022 and will apply to US imports made on or after that date.

UK is not getting this relief because of Boris's threats to the N. Ireland deal which caused the US to not lift the tariffs.

[marton]

Boris's Govt is not good on details

The British government has announced that the planned introduction of additional post-Brexit checks on Irish exports to the UK on January 1 has been postponed. The UK’s announcement did not mention a new date for the checks to be implemented, saying it was contingent on talks on the NI protocol.

Among the issues to be clarified is how the UK will separate Irish goods from the rest of the EU, which will face the new rules from January 1.

No worries there are a couple of working days before January to finalise the details (assuming the usual UK two-week Christmas shutdown).

[JackieH]

Returning from the UK via The Tunnel could become interesting!

Still don't know if the planned blockade of Tunnel and Ports, but the Breton fishermen and others, will happen on 23rd- or any other day???

What fun, what amazing *ucking fun!

[Biro]

	Quote:	JackieH
	Returning from the UK via The Tunnel could become interesting! Still don't know if the planned blockade of Tunnel and Ports, but the Breton fishermen and others, will happen on 23rd- or any other day??? What fun, what amazing *ucking fun!

See how nasty these French people really are, lucky the UK left EU when they did i reckon

[NotAllThere]

	Quote:	Biro
	See how nasty these French people really are, lucky the UK left EU when they did i reckon

The French fishermen were blockading ports before Brexit. They'll continue afterwards, I'm sure.

[marton]

UK Govt. announced this week that anyone driving a van, light commercial vehicle or any car pulling an over 2.5 tonne GTW trailer will need a “goods vehicle operator’s licence” to enter the European Union, Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein or Switzerland from May.

Industry leaders have said the new licenses would cost van drivers up to £1,100.

[Ato]

	Quote:	marton
	UK Govt. announced this week that anyone driving a van, light commercial vehicle or any car pulling an over 2.5 tonne GTW trailer will need a “goods vehicle operator’s licence” to enter the European Union, Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein or Switzerland from May. Industry leaders have said the new licenses would cost van drivers up to £1,100.

Are you sure it's anyone and not just commercial operators?

From your link:
You will not need a goods vehicle operator licence if any of these apply:

• you only use your vehicles in the UK
• you are transporting goods on a non-commercial basis (not for ‘hire or reward’)

[marton]

	Quote:	Ato
	Are you sure it's anyone and not just commercial operators? From your link: You will not need a goods vehicle operator licence if any of these apply: you only use your vehicles in the UK you are transporting goods on a non-commercial basis (not for ‘hire or reward’)

Phrased it poorly, one will only need a “goods vehicle operator’s licence” for commercial transportation of goods.

[Ato]

	Quote:	marton
	Phrased it poorly, one will only need a “goods vehicle operator’s licence” for commercial transportation of goods.

On first read I thought that the UK was trying to keep all those Dutch and French campers out of the country.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Ato
	On first read I thought that the UK was trying to keep all those Dutch and French campers out of the country.

They have already fixed that one - requiring a passport to enter the UK instead of the National ID cards should be enough to dispel many.

[marton]

I am sure any change can only improve the situation.

David Frost has resigned over the "direction" of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government at a key moment in talks with Brussels.

Frost, the U.K. minister in charge of Brexit negotiations, "is understood to have handed his resignation to the prime minister a week ago, but was persuaded by Mr. Johnson to stay in his post until January".

No doubt Boris will handle the NI discussions personally

[bowlie]

	Quote:	marton
	No doubt Boris will handle the NI discussions personally

Well, that would end them quickly.

[John William]

	Quote:	marton
	UK Govt. announced this week that anyone driving a van, light commercial vehicle or any car pulling an over 2.5 tonne GTW trailer will need a “goods vehicle operator’s licence” to enter the European Union, Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein or Switzerland from May. Industry leaders have said the new licenses would cost van drivers up to £1,100.

I wonder where this puts the One Man an his Van - house moving business between the UK and Spainish Costa's many of whose vans
can be found on Brittany Car Ferrries ?

[marton]

At last Boris has listed the Brexit successes here.

The list includes "forging ahead to remove the ban on selling in pounds and ounces and to restore the crown stamp onto the side of pint glasses." Really, he said this!

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	marton
	At last Boris has listed the Brexit successes here. The list includes "forging ahead to remove the ban on selling in pounds and ounces and to restore the crown stamp onto the side of pint glasses." Really, he said this!

Well if you have a population that believes they live in a constitutional democracy without a written constitution and voted for BREXIT, it's really not unreasonable for Boris to expect they'd believe any old guff:

	Quote:
	Since the agreement was signed, the Government has sought to capitalise on new freedoms by cutting red tape for businesses, reforming EU rules and regulations and boosting trade abroad to create new jobs here in the UK.

[bowlie]

	Quote:
	Since the agreement was signed, the Government has sought to capitalise on new freedoms by cutting red tape for businesses, reforming EU rules and regulations and boosting trade abroad to create new jobs here in the UK.

Continuing the myth that the EU was a third party imposing rules and regulations on member states without their involvement or approval.

Every EU rule and regulation was adopted with the UK’s participation and agreement. Every one.

[marton]

One of the Brexit successes claimed by Boris was "Taking back control of our borders – replacing freedom of movement with a points-based immigration system"

And today "UK ministers eager to ease immigration rules for Indian citizens, Offer could be on the table in upcoming trade talks in Delhi".