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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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A reminder that the US sent mankind into space using pounds and inches.
Just another reminder that Tony still can't master Google.
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Just another reminder that Tony still can't master Google.
Nasa uses the metric system since 1990. As far as I know, people went to space before 1990. Or was the moon landing indeed a hoax?
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Old 31.05.2022, 16:52
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"Contrary to urban myth, NASA did use the metric system for the Apollo Moon landings.

NASA’s mathematicians used Newton’s laws of motion in their space flight calculations, using the International System of Units (SI) units for such calculations is simpler and clearer than using imperial units.
To complicate matters, the names used for imperial units of force and mass are the same."
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"Contrary to urban myth, NASA did use the metric system for the Apollo Moon landings.

NASA’s mathematicians used Newton’s laws of motion in their space flight calculations, using the International System of Units (SI) units for such calculations is simpler and clearer than using imperial units.
To complicate matters, the names used for imperial units of force and mass are the same."
Amazing they didn't crash.

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Mission Control: 60 seconds.

This is the amount of time the Eagle has left before the ‘bingo’ call.

Aldrin: Lights on. 60 feet. Down 2.5. Forward. Forward.

Aldrin: 40 feet, down 2.5. Picking up some dust.

Aldrin: 30 feet, 2.5 down… shadow.

Aldrin: 4 forward. 4 forward. Drifting to the right a little. 20 feet. Down a half.

Mission Control: 30 seconds.

Aldrin: Drifting forward just a little bit. That’s good.

Aldrin: Contact light.

A sensor hanging from the feet of the Eagle has touched the surface, setting off a light inside the lunar module.
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Old 31.05.2022, 17:05
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"Contrary to urban myth, NASA did use the metric system for the Apollo Moon landings.

NASA’s mathematicians used Newton’s laws of motion in their space flight calculations, using the International System of Units (SI) units for such calculations is simpler and clearer than using imperial units.
To complicate matters, the names used for imperial units of force and mass are the same."
I often wonder whether the first aliens from another planet who have been observing the earth & the UK
in particular ( as if in real time - but real time as it was 150 years ago ) would only be able to
relate to Jacob Rees-Mogg when their spacecraft touches down in the UK ?
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"Contrary to urban myth, NASA did use the metric system for the Apollo Moon landings.
Things got a bit complicated with the Mars Orbiter though.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr...id%20yesterday.

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They didn't and it was destroyed.
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Old 31.05.2022, 20:51
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Amazing they didn't crash.
Why amazing?
This was exactly as was explained in my link which I am sure you studied.

"The Apollo Guidance Computer is a good example of this.
The computer display readouts were in units of feet, feet per second, and nautical miles – units that the Apollo astronauts, who had mostly trained as jet pilots, would have been accustomed to using.
Internally, however, the computer’s software used SI units for all powered-flight navigation and guidance calculations, and values such as altitude and altitude rate were only converted to imperial units when they needed to be shown on the computer’s display."

To put it simply, all the complex astronomical and navigational calculations were made in SI units.
For the US pilots their displays were dumbed down to imperial units.
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Old 31.05.2022, 21:36
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Would be a challenge as the owner is Anglo-Spanish multinational airline holding company with its registered office in Madrid, Spain, and its global headquarters in London, maybe "plus ultra" airways
So what.

Swiss Airlines is owned by German Lufthansa AG.
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Old 31.05.2022, 23:04
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The Metric system was first introduced into the UK around sixty years ago, around the time Boris was born and long before the UK joined the EU.

I wonder how many UK people understand the Imperial system?
I remember it well. I moved to London in April 1970. Took me a short while to get used to the Imperial system and 'old money' - left 6 months later and then returned to live there permanently in July 1971- and Imperial was gone.

There was that ridiculous period of adjustment- with Carpet sales being advertised in Price per Square yard, sold by the linear foot in 2, 3 or 4 metre widths. Oh what nonsense. If anyone in the UK hasn't understood the metric system by now, 51 years later - I have a few adjectives to describe their condition!
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Old 01.06.2022, 10:36
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I think people don't quite understand what the government is proposing. It's just allowing shops and businesses to start selling goods in imperial units again. So instead of buying a 454g jar of jam (which UK supermarkets do sell) it can be labeled as 1lb. Or instead of buying a 568ml of beer it will be 1 pint.

I don't get why people get wound up over this. It may be slightly ridiculous and a distraction, but there's far bigger issues out there.
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Old 01.06.2022, 10:46
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I don't get why people get wound up over this. It may be slightly ridiculous and a distraction, but there's far bigger issues out there.
Of course there's a bigger issue. The issue is how to hide the inflation by confusing customers and denying them the option to compare like for like.
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I think people don't quite understand what the government is proposing. It's just allowing shops and businesses to start selling goods in imperial units again. So instead of buying a 454g jar of jam (which UK supermarkets do sell) it can be labeled as 1lb. Or instead of buying a 568ml of beer it will be 1 pint.

I don't get why people get wound up over this. It may be slightly ridiculous and a distraction, but there's far bigger issues out there.
Yes the far bigger issue is that Boris Johnson should have the decency to resign and be gone as he's by far the greatest distraction.
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Old 01.06.2022, 10:54
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Of course there's a bigger issue. The issue is how to hide the inflation by confusing customers and denying them the option to compare like for like.
It sounds like you haven't read the legislation of what is being proposed.

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Yes the far bigger issue is that Boris Johnson should have the decency to resign and be gone as he's by far the greatest distraction.
Only for the frothing media and folk like you who can't see beyond his name. Perhaps you'll soon get your wish and he'll be gone, the UK will still be out of the EU though.
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Yes it will - for sometime, and the UK will suffer for it for decades. Everything single thing that some of us warned about again and again, backed by expert advice from all sides, has turned out to be true and worse.

And still, you will be here, away from all the consequences, with your nice Swiss salary and pension, safe and sound- and smirking with glee.

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Yes it will - for sometime, and the UK will suffer for it for decades. Everything single thing that some of us warned about again and again, backed by expert advice from all sides, has turned out to be true and worse.

And still, you will be here, away from all the consequences, with your nice Swiss salary and pension, safe and sound- and smirking with glee.
Are you able to offer anything other than hyperbole? "Give me one tangible benefit... etc”
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Yes please,, give me one and preferably a list of Brexit benefits so far. Please do.


The other tragedy of course, is that it is clear Johnson has to go- he has totally lost the trust of the people, especially Tories, and most of his MPs too - but more importantly, that there is NO-ONE BUT NON-ONE in his Cabinet whou would be better or more capable. THAT is a true disaster.
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Old 01.06.2022, 11:26
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Yes please,, give me one and preferably a list of Brexit benefits so far. Please do.


You're becoming a parody of yourself!

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The other tragedy of course, is that it is clear Johnson has to go- he has totally lost the trust of the people, especially Tories, and most of his MPs too - but more importantly, that there is NO-ONE BUT NON-ONE in his Cabinet whou would be better or more capable. THAT is a true disaster.
"Clear Johnson has to go", you never accepted him in the first place! Americanized press who keep banging the ridiculous Partygate drum means that the Westminster bubble and media are starting to believe their own hype!

The fact is, that Boris Johnson is far more popular than the media are willing to accept. No one else in the Conservative party would have delivered that majority. If they proceed with removing him then they will certainly lose the next election.

The far bigger issue Boris Johnson has is with people like me, ideological conservatives/Brexiteers who are watching on in dismay as the government keep hurling ever more money on to their big state skipfire. I just don't know how I could vote for such policies come the next election.
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I remember it well. I moved to London in April 1970. Took me a short while to get used to the Imperial system and 'old money' - left 6 months later and then returned to live there permanently in July 1971- and Imperial was gone.

There was that ridiculous period of adjustment- with Carpet sales being advertised in Price per Square yard, sold by the linear foot in 2, 3 or 4 metre widths. Oh what nonsense. If anyone in the UK hasn't understood the metric system by now, 51 years later - I have a few adjectives to describe their condition!
I don’t know where you were living but imperial measurements were still very much alive and kicking long after 1971 where I lived.
Milk was still sold in pints, petrol by the gallon, fruit and veg in pounds, distances in miles etc etc.

They stopped teaching imperial in schools in the seventies and moved onto metric but otherwise imperial was still very much around.
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I don’t know where you were living but imperial measurements were still very much alive and kicking long after 1971 where I lived.
Milk was still sold in pints, petrol by the gallon, fruit and veg in pounds, distances in miles etc etc.

They stopped teaching imperial in schools in the seventies and moved onto metric but otherwise imperial was still very much around.
From the Coop website in the little town in Scotland we often go to:

Co-op Scottish Fresh Semi-Skimmed Milk 4 Pints/2.272L
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From the Coop website in the little town in Scotland we often go to:

Co-op Scottish Fresh Semi-Skimmed Milk 4 Pints/2.272L
That is exactly the point. Imperial units are not banned in the UK, just they have to be displayed along with the metric equivalent.
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