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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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It sounds like you haven't read the legislation of what is being proposed.

Only for the frothing media and folk like you who can't see beyond his name. Perhaps you'll soon get your wish and he'll be gone, the UK will still be out of the EU though.
Please provide a link to "the legislation of what is being proposed", that would really help this discussion.
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Milk was still sold ..., petrol by the gallon,
Petrol has been sold by the litre in the UK for many years. IIRC it was when the price of petrol first exceeded £1/Gallon and the old analogue pumps couldn't cope with displaying a number and two digits.

Funny they haven't gone back, except that the price per UK gallon would be shown as £7.75
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Petrol has been sold by the litre in the UK for many years. IIRC it was when the price of petrol first exceeded £1/Gallon and the old analogue pumps couldn't cope with displaying a number and two digits.

Funny they haven't gone back, except that the price per UK gallon would be shown as £7.75
It started being sold in litres in the mid eighties and it was in 1988 that the government removed the obligation to display the price in both gallons and litres. I think it was the early nineties when the gallon was phased out completely.

It was certainly still being sold in gallons in the seventies which was the decade mentioned in the post I replied to.
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Old 01.06.2022, 16:09
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Pounds, ounces, pints! Johnson is offering a whole bushel worth of phoned-in gibberish

Marina Hyde in the Guardian.

As for this interview- wow


https://fb.watch/dnbMOkjs18/

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Old 01.06.2022, 16:21
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

The UK Government announced in 1965 that it would support the industry moving over to the metric system.
The Metrication Board was set up in 1968 and set the target of the country having completely switched over by 1975.

It missed its target by some 30 years

Edit: maybe the confusion is due to the UK switching to "new pence" in 1971; hope Boris brings back the half-crown now that was a hefty coin.
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It started being sold in litres in the mid eighties and it was in 1988 that the government removed the obligation to display the price in both gallons and litres. I think it was the early nineties when the gallon was phased out completely.

It was certainly still being sold in gallons in the seventies which was the decade mentioned in the post I replied to.
It is a complete mess in the UK with a mish-mash of imperial and metric e.g. fuel economy is usually displayed as miles per gallon (mpg) even though gallons have disappeared from most pumps.
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My kids give me pained looks when I use feet and inches.
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It is a complete mess in the UK with a mish-mash of imperial and metric e.g. fuel economy is usually displayed as miles per gallon (mpg) even though gallons have disappeared from most pumps.
It is indeed and it has been like that for years.

How many people over fifty would know their height in metric measurements? Or how much a baby weighs in kilos?
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Old 01.06.2022, 19:48
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My kids give me pained looks when I use feet and inches.
I hope you have also introduced them to hands, rods, chains, and furlongs?
I don't miss my school days at all.
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Old 02.06.2022, 09:21
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It is a complete mess in the UK with a mish-mash of imperial and metric e.g. fuel economy is usually displayed as miles per gallon (mpg) even though gallons have disappeared from most pumps.
Isn't that the beauty of different measurement systems though? That we're reminded that ultimately these things are fabricated, that they're man made. I like the idea that a foot is the length of a forearm, or that a yard is a single pace. I'm of an age where I'm perfectly comfortable using both, oz for baking, mm in woodwork, mpg for fuel economy.
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Old 02.06.2022, 10:24
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Well yes, I'd actually agree with this. A bit like being bilingual and knowing a few other languages. Puts perspective on things.

I have old fashioned scales with both Imperial and Metric weights- and still use some of my old cooking books, especially my old classical Be-Ro booklet, for baking. Nothing, but nothing at all re Brexit stopped me or anyone else from doing that.

As for industry, it just does NOT work, at all. You can't recalibrate machines for the UK especially. I remember the ridiculous days in the 70s when I worked for an Engineering Company that made machinery for the Pottery industry, exporting all over EU- it was a nightmare. And the days when both systems were mixed- carpets advertised in price per square yard, sold by the linear foot, in 2, 3 or 4 metre widths. It was impossible to work out quickly how much it would cost.


BTW, some Senior Tories are now calling for a return to Single Market to slow down the terrible cost of living crisis. It would solve the issues with the NI Protocol too.

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A senior Conservative MP has called on Boris Johnson take the UK back into the European Union's single market in order to help mitigate the ongoing cost of living crisis.

Tobias Ellwood, who chairs the defence select committee, said the Brexit deal negotiated by the government had left industry "strangled" by red tape, and that securing closer economic links with the bloc would help bolster the economy at a time of soaring bills and widespread inflation.

Ellwood, who is one of the 28 Tory MPs to have publicly called on Johnson to resign, urged the prime minister to pursue a Norway-style relationship with the EU.

Norway is not in the EU but has full access to its single market, meaning it enjoys low-friction trade with the bloc, by virtue of its membership of a trade group called the European Economic Area (EEA). A number of Conservative and Labour MPs campaigned for a Norway-style Brexit following the 2016 referendum, but staunch Brexiteers argued that it would undermine the UK's sovereignty.



https://www.politicshome.com/news/ar...-living-crisis
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Of course those who actually know what they are talking about, know that it represents the worst of populism to hide major failures

From the Independent today

Boris Johnson’s post-Brexit plan to bring back imperial measurements is “complete and utter nonsense”, according to Asda chair Stuart Rose.

In a scathing attack, the Conservative peer said the push to boost the use of pounds, ounces and other outmoded weights and measures would only “add cost” and confusion to businesses.

“I’ve never heard such nonsense in my life,” Lord Rose told Times Radio on Thursday, branding it a “backwards” step aimed at pleasing nostalgic voters.

“I mean, we have got serious problems in the world and we’re now saying let’s go backwards. Does anybody in this country below the age of about 40 know how many ounces there are in a pound?” the Asda chief asked.

Lord Rose said the government was pushing ahead with the plan “just to actually please a small minority of people who hark for the past. It’s complete and utter nonsense and it will add cost to those people who have to put it into place.”

The former boss of Marks & Spencer added: “I am shocked. It’s one thing having a crown on your pint glass, which is a bit of fun and a bit of nostalgia. It’s quite another having a whole dual system of weights and measures.”
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IIRC BJ said the Northern Ireland was getting the best of both worlds by being in the Single Market.

Why wouldn't the remaining provinces also benefit from being in the single market? So what if the ECJ is the ultimate judicial recourse, that doesn't mean that British courts are out of the picture, it just means that the final judicial option lays with them. And they reject the vast majority of cases directed at them leaving the national decisions intact.
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When all's said and done I reckon the Brexits agreed with Major Digby Dawlish and Lieutenant Kit Barrington, that the end of the Entente Cordiale began long before Britain left the EU.

Major Dawlish & Lt Kit Barrington going through Customs video
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Jackie, this is for you. A story about free trade, or lack thereof.

https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/...dl1L_qtwQ&s=19
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Price of Pint of beer in London tops £8 - wow. Don't think punters will mind if in metric or imperial!!!
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Sadly the good times seem to be fading
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It means the UK will go from the second-fastest growing economy in the G7 group of industrial nations to the slowest growing in 2023.
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Sadly the good times seem to be fading
Come on, surely by now you realise that BREXITEERS don't trust experts. They will happily sing la-la up until they loose their own job.
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Price of Pint of beer in London tops £8 - wow. Don't think punters will mind if in metric or imperial!!!
You've been able to find a pint of beer for £8 a pint in London for decades, if you want something really special. I live in London now and normally pay £4.30 - £5.00 a pint for traditional cask ale and up to £6.50 for stronger craft beer. I might sometimes pay £4 for a half of a very rare and special DIPA, but the norm for most peoples tipples is around the £5 - £6 a pint mark.

It's just yet more lazy journalism creating click bate headlines that will be shared on SM.

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To be fair, this was reported by a vast variety of British Press, from left to right and everything in between.

''Londoners can expect to pay more than £8 for a pint of lager, a shocking new report has revealed. A pint will cost £3.95, according to an average calculated by hospitality industry consultancy CGA which analyses samples of the UK's 90,000 bars and pubs.

But this rises to £8.06 in one part of England's capital - an increase of more than 70 per cent since the global financial crisis of 2008. On the other end of the scale, the cheapest pint was located in Lancashire at a cost of just £1.79.''

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/u...n-war-24142418


Mind you, I remember the days when a Pint of DD was 1 Shilling and eleven
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