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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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10 and 6 with a curry and a nan at the Agra near UCH

but yes, that was a while ago.
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Mind you, I remember the days when a Pint of DD was 1 Shilling and eleven
Shush be quite, don't say that !! as you never know whether the Brexit Opportunities Minister himself, Jacob Rees-Mogg could be reading this forum in search of 'old ideas' that would appeal to the older ( before the EU ) generation because he's frankly exhausted all efforts to identify any viable new Brexit opportunities.
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Never realised, but he is only 53- he can't possibly remember pre EU days and old money, never mind pounds and ounces!
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Of course a 53 year old will know about pounds and ounces, all his children would have been weighed in pounds and ounces for one thing.
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Metrication was introduced when he was 4 or a bit less.

Obstetricians gave weight in kilos from then on, even though most people converted. My first baby was born in June 73, and weight was registered in kilos and centimetres. OH was an obstetrician SHO at the time, so he remembers it well.
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Metrication was introduced when he was 4 or a bit less.

Obstetricians gave weight in kilos from then on, even though most people converted. My first baby was born in June 73, and weight was registered in kilos and centimetres. OH was an obstetrician SHO at the time, so he remembers it well.
No they didn’t. I have just checked and both of the older boys born in 74 and 75 have their weights registered in pounds and ounces and length in inches.
Metrication might have been introduced then but imperial measurements were still being used long after that.
Fruit and veg, cheese, cooked meats at the deli counter were all still being sold in imperial measures until not that long ago. Rees-Mogg will certainly know all about pounds and ounces.
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2 different towns, 2 different hospitals, 2 different obstetricians and teams- certainly mine in 73 and 75 were registered in kilos and centimetres. So please don't tell me they weren't! That is really quite out of order.

Yes, it was that absolutely ridiculous time when both systems were mixed and it just depended on shop, business ... obstetirician, etc. Total nonsense.

Carpets advertised in price per square yard, sold by the linear foot in 2/3/4 metre widths. And businesses had a huge nightmare and cost selling and importing.

As for cheese and fruit etc, being sold in pounds and ounces until not so long ago- that is quite nonsense- I lived in the UK! Ask Gary Lineker, I used to buy my fruit and veg from him.

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There is nothing out of order in Belgianmum‘s post and certainly no need for that rant.
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2 different towns, 2 different hospitals, 2 different obstetricians and teams- certainly mine in 73 and 75 were registered in kilos and centimetres. So please don't tell me they weren't! That is really quite out of order.

Yes, it was that absolutely ridiculous time when both systems were mixed and it just depended on shop, business ... obstetirician, etc. Total nonsense.

Carpets advertised in price per square yard, sold by the linear foot in 2/3/4 metre widths. And businesses had a huge nightmare and cost selling and importing.

As for cheese and fruit etc, being sold in pounds and ounces until not so long ago- that is quite nonsense- I lived in the UK! Ask Gary Lineker, I used to buy my fruit and veg from him. When is the last time you lived in the UK?
I never said yours weren’t. How would I know that.
Just because yours were doesn’t mean they all were. I have evidence to show that it wasn’t the case everywhere which is what you implied.

As for the rest of it I won’t waste my time responding other than to say it is definitely not nonsense.
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This is an excellent demonstration of the difference between anecdotal evidence and data.

Thank you both.
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I am 52. I went to school at 4.5 yrs. I always learnt metric system. My now 19 yr old born in the UK was measures in Kg and cms (but interestingly they kept telling us his pounds and ounces weight “for the grandparents”).

My mother’s home recipe book is all in imperial so while I learnt baking with her when small, I still have to stop and really concentrate to remember the difference between pounds and ounces.

In my experience not being formally taught something makes a huge difference to understanding it.

The only exception to this is miles - which if you drive in the UK you are obliged to use - but to understand miles in terms of distance to go I always do a rough KM conversion in my head. But clearly not needed when a sign says speed limit 50 and my car has a mileometer .. so that I freely use without the need to convert.

This is the reality for all people born approx 1970 onwards so dialling it back to
Imperial would be pointless.
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There is nothing out of order in Belgianmum‘s post and certainly no need for that rant.

Thanks ECB. Rant? where? Last comment edited out.

The UK change to metrication in 1971- I remember it very well, and not anecdotal. My comment was based on Hospital practice as experienced by myself as a mother of babies born in 73 and 75- and OH's many years in hospital and obstetrics, since 1969. The change in 71 was clear- and as ECB says, pounds and ounces were also given 'for the grand-mothers' in most hospitals at least since then.

Have no objection to different opinions, but the comment was clear 'No they didn't'. Which implied my comment was false, and quite rude. Fin.
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Thanks ECB. Rant? where? Last comment edited out.

The UK change to metrication in 1971- I remember it very well, and not anecdotal. My comment was based on Hospital practice as experienced by myself as a mother of babies born in 73 and 75- and OH's many years in hospital and obstetrics, since 1969. The change in 71 was clear- and as ECB says, pounds and ounces were also given 'for the grand-mothers' in most hospitals at least since then.

Have no objection to different opinions, but the comment was clear 'No they didn't'. Which implied my comment was false, and quite rude. Fin.
Well my son was born in 2002 so almost 35 years after metrification - you would hope they would mention kg at this stretch of time after metrification!!! But i would definitely expect babies being born in the early 70s to be measured in pounds and ounces as it takes quite a time for these things to soak in (at least 35 years on this anecdotal evidence)
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Have no objection to different opinions, but the comment was clear 'No they didn't'. Which implied my comment was false, and quite rude. Fin.
It did nothing of the kind, it corrected your assertion that obstetricians gave weights in kg from that date which wasn’t correct. Maybe it was the way you wrote it but the implication was that it applied to all obstetricians and that was definitely not the case. Some may have done but by no means all of them, it took quite a few years for them to move over to weighing all babies in metric.

We all know the date when metric measurements were introduced but it didn’t mean the whole country changed everything from then onwards. It took a very long time for everything to be implemented and even now some imperial units are still used.

I was not rude at all and quite frankly find the accusation that I was quite insulting as well as the personal comment addressed to me. There is no need to resort to personal comments.
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I was not rude at all and quite frankly find the accusation that I was quite insulting as well as the personal comment addressed to me. There is no need to resort to personal comments.
Well you know how some people on here get...in for 1d in for 0.454 kg.
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Yes yet another example of Britain reaping those Brexit Opportunities.



BBC News - British seafood firm faced losing £50,000 shipment over Brexit error
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Better post this before JackieH notices it.

Yes yet another example of Britain reaping those Brexit Opportunities.

BBC News - British seafood firm faced losing £50,000 shipment over Brexit error
This sounds more like incompetent bureaucrats though, or intent by the French/EU.
It's quite nonsensical having to sign the same form dozens of times, that's asking for errors like this.
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Yes yet another example of Britain reaping those Brexit Opportunities.



BBC News - British seafood firm faced losing £50,000 shipment over Brexit error
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Yep, cause screwing around with the NI protocol and causing a trade war won’t be a problem….

On an other note do consumers really want to buy fish that has been back and forth a cross the channel, stood on pears and then reprocessed?
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On an other note do consumers really want to buy fish that has been back and forth a cross the channel, stood on pears and then reprocessed?
The Brexit's will eat anything, as they lost their sense of taste long ago, so nothing's too gross
for them, like genetically modified tomatoes, US hormone-treated beef, chlorinated chicken, GM this &
Genetically Modified that; all the food that nature never intended you to eat unless your auditioning to become a Zombie !!

So discard the Organic food as nothing's too gross for the British Brexit's.
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Does it really mater what babies were weighed and measured in back in the 70's ?
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