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Swiss residents and nationals can join Exit. In French Exit
That's excellent value. You get a magazine four times a year too.

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Also if you feel you are far too old to enjoy life anymore there's always that clinic in Basel, Switzerland where assisted suicide is legal.

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The Exit International referred to in that story is not related to the Swiss Exit. It is an Australian organisation.
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Old 17.02.2023, 13:40
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Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in

We digress a bit here. But for info, Switzerland has two separate and distinct EXIT Associations- one for Suisse Romande and one for German part. They have slightly different rules too. So since we are talking about some who may think about returning to live in UK or elsewhere- it is relevant. EXIT Suisse Romande requires that you are fully registered resident in Switzerland, at a specific Commune, with you own address. It previously closed a blind eye to fully registered, as long as you had a second residence in CH, owned or rented. But that loophole has been closed- and they will only help someone who is, as described above. So if we returned to UK to live, we would lose that choice. (and that choice is VERY important to both of us).

This is not the case for EXIT in German part.

In Basel-Benken region there is Pegasus (used to be Life Circle).
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Old 17.02.2023, 13:49
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Indeed, why go to Basel, when Exit will come to my home

Cost is about 70.- for both of us per year- and no added cost on the day. Perfect. Defo not available in the UK. EXIT and not BREXIT.
So go for it!

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What's wrong with DIY, why involve anybody else or go to more expense for such a simple task ?
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Old 17.02.2023, 14:06
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We digress a bit here. But for info, Switzerland has two separate and distinct EXIT Associations- one for Suisse Romande and one for German part. They have slightly different rules too. So since we are talking about some who may think about returning to live in UK or elsewhere- it is relevant. EXIT Suisse Romande requires that you are fully registered resident in Switzerland, at a specific Commune, with you own address. It previously closed a blind eye to fully registered, as long as you had a second residence in CH, owned or rented. But that loophole has been closed- and they will only help someone who is, as described above. So if we returned to UK to live, we would lose that choice. (and that choice is VERY important to both of us).

This is not the case for EXIT in German part.

In Basel-Benken region there is Pegasus (used to be Life Circle).

The lead of the page at https://www.exit.ch/en/ (the English version of the "Swiss-German" EXIT) states:

"Important Note: Eligible for membership in EXIT are only persons of the age of legal majority with either permanent residence in Switzerland or Swiss citizenship."


Whereas the romand site mentions "principal domicile" which might be a lower standard, if anything?

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Old 17.02.2023, 14:21
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Ah yes, Swiss citizenship required if not officially resident in CH. Important correction. That for EXIT on German side. Even a Swiss citizen, living abroad, and even if member for a very long time, cannot ask for assistance, from EXIT Suisse Romande.

Thanks Tom, not quite ready yet, cheers. But it is good to know the choice is there, if and when, definitely. Rega and EXIT are the best value 'insurances'.

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Ah yes, Swiss citizenship required if not officially resident in CH. Important correction. That for EXIT on German side. Even a Swiss citizen, living abroad, and even if member for a very long time, cannot ask for assistance, from EXIT Suisse Romande.

Thanks Tom, not quite ready yet, cheers. But it is good to know the choice is there, if and when, definitely. Rega and EXIT are the best value 'insurances'.
You're a Swiss citizen. I would assume based on that simple fact, that you can choose EXIT on the German side regardless of where you reside (i.e. if you're living in the UK). I know your heart is in Romandie, but be practical if need be.
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Old 18.02.2023, 12:04
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Totally of course- and plenty of time only 72 next week and on top form. We do digress...

Back to Brexit, and all the wonderful consequences for the UK.

Anyone found any yet? Rees Mogg was appointed to find them, and his job was cancelled as he just couldn't. Maybe EF can do better?

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There is no solution, possible some form of agreement later on but not for a while and it all depends how much the UK is ready to swallow, it is the EU firmly in the driving seat and will remain so.
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Old 18.02.2023, 14:20
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Will be interesting to see what will happen in next few days with the GFA (Good Friday Agreement) - will the DUP scupper it?
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Old 18.02.2023, 15:11
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Will be interesting to see what will happen in next few days with the GFA (Good Friday Agreement) - will the DUP scupper it?
Please get the facts right, it would go a long way with some of the arguments you make...

The DUP can't scupper the GFA only the voters on the island of Ireland can do that and the only reason the DUP are at the table at all is because they discovered that they can't the last time they walked out.

The DUP are slow learners, it takes them a couple year to figure out, what everyone else already knows. Eventually they will figure out that there is no alternative to playing second fiddle in parliament to SF, but it will take some time and in the mean time they will keep coming up with excuses.
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From the Guardian yesterday

'Rishi Sunak has been warned that more than 100 Tory MPs could rebel over a deal with the EU to help break the post-Brexit deadlock in Northern Ireland, as Boris Johnson launched a major intervention calling for him to take a tougher line with Brussels.

Pressure is growing on the prime minister as government sources said tense talks in Downing Street over the weekend on overhauling the Northern Ireland protocol were yet to yield a breakthrough.

They cautioned that the hoped-for timetable of an agreement being announced on Monday and a Commons vote on Tuesday was at risk of slipping. One insider said, “We’re ready to go,” but claimed that nervousness about opposition by the Democratic Unionist party (DUP) and Tory backbenchers was to blame for the hold-up.'


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...droidApp_Other

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...The DUP are slow learners, it takes them a couple year to figure out, what everyone else already knows. Eventually they will figure out that there is no alternative to playing second fiddle in parliament to SF, but it will take some time and in the mean time they will keep coming up with excuses.
Slow learners? Glacial more like. Half of them still don't accept evolution.
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So, it's was a naming problem. "European Union" is an ugly name. "Economic NATO" sounds better.

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The G-7 (France, Germany, Italy, UK, Canada, USA, Japan....and the "EU") and like-minded nations should cooperate to build a supply chain for resources such as strategically important minerals, former British Prime Minister Liz Truss said in an interview with Nikkei on Saturday.

"I believe that we as the free world are facing a serious challenge from authoritarian regimes, particularly from China," she said in Tokyo.

An economic version of something similar to NATO that centered on the G-7, included a different mix of countries inside and outside the bloc such as Australia, was needed to counter China's Belt and Road infrastructure initiative, Truss said.

"I want to see the G-7 acting as an economic NATO to make sure we are not allowing freedom and democracy to be undermined by China's economic policies," she added.

She proposed building a supply chain network for rare-earth elements and other important minerals, export controls for cutting-edge technologies such as semiconductors, and cooperation among members in infrastructure investment in developing countries, "providing investment that doesn't have strings attached, that doesn't lead to a debt trap."
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So, it's was a naming problem. "European Union" is an ugly name. "Economic NATO" sounds better.
Well when you can't get the deals you thought you'd get and they don't need you as much as you thought, you do need to find some way to roll it back.
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From the New European

''The government plan proposes “green and red channels”, where goods travelling from the UK to Northern Ireland are treated differently to those that move onto the single market. But really, this arrangement is a reheated version of May’s deal on Northern Ireland. What was called a “surrender deal” at the time has now been repackaged by Brexiters as a British victory.

And yet – in 2021, the European Commission itself proposed a plan to differentiate between goods travelling to Northern Ireland and the single market. ''

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/sun...-it-years-ago/

in the meantime, Suella Bravermann and others for the blessed ERG threatening to resign over this. Good riddance!
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in the meantime, Suella Bravermann and others for the blessed ERG threatening to resign over this. Good riddance!
What !! Surely that stalwart of the ERG, Jacob Rees-Mogg will remain if only to put in a good word for his friend, Boris.
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From the New European

''The government plan proposes “green and red channels”, where goods travelling from the UK to Northern Ireland are treated differently to those that move onto the single market. But really, this arrangement is a reheated version of May’s deal on Northern Ireland. What was called a “surrender deal” at the time has now been repackaged by Brexiters as a British victory.

And yet – in 2021, the European Commission itself proposed a plan to differentiate between goods travelling to Northern Ireland and the single market. ''

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/sun...-it-years-ago/

in the meantime, Suella Bravermann and others for the blessed ERG threatening to resign over this. Good riddance!
Lord Randolph Churchill once said that Ireland would dominate British politics for a hundred years, looks like he was off by a couple of hundred years!

None of these people have the same objective, so the chance of any proposal finding favour with them is very unlikely. The DUP has no interest whatsoever in solving the problem. Their sole objective it to use any means possible to defeat the GFA, if BREXIT can do it for them they will take it. To accept any solution means going in to parliament with an SF First Minister and it is hard to see that happening any time soon.
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