The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Dougal's Breakfast]

	Quote:	Phos
	Sorry, but this sounds like a typical day for a large metropolis when the weather gets hot in June. The difference here is it is all gathered and attributed to a referendum some would like to squash.

Right, because an enormous political change which has split the population right down the middle, involving not-entirely-unimportant matters like national sovereignty, immigration, the economy, the break up of a 200 year old union and that most sacred of sacred cows, the NHS, isn't going to have a somewhat violent effect upon the general atmosphere of the nation.

Get the f out of here, Phos. This isn't a football match.

[jacek]

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	Not sure I'd classify scratching German cars as a hate crime, but maybe a lesson for EU countries wanting to be 'nasty' if it leads to a popular boycott of EU goods, then it could backfire.

Hate crime towards German renown manufacturers of the cars aka. member of the EU!

If I read this article correctly, it's not just about the cars being scratched but more about phenomenon happening post Brexit which DB has explained more eloquently above ...

[Dougal's Breakfast]

	Quote:	adrianlondon
	The people committing those crimes feel emboldened by the Exit vote. Had Remain won, they would have still been racist idiots but much more difficult to find as they'd be keeping a lower profile.

Judging by the reaction of many of the Remain supporters to this referendum, I could easily imagine the Britain First crowd acting like even bigger dicks had Leave lost.

I'm sure we'll find out in good time, though.

[manwithnoname]

[JoeUK]

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	Not sure I'd classify scratching German cars as a hate crime, but maybe a lesson for EU countries wanting to be 'nasty' if it leads to a popular boycott of EU goods, then it could backfire.

I remember seeing a nice shiny Beemer in the City the day after England were knocked out of Euro 96 with the word 'Kuntz' sprayed all down one side, to this day I don't know if it was supposed to be abuse or praise

[Pashosh]

	Quote:	Castro
	Here here

Yes ! where would be if any johnny foreigner would be allowed to comment on our own, local, domestic, precious subjects ?

[Dougal's Breakfast]

	Quote:	Pashosh
	Yes ! where would be if any johnny foreigner would be allowed to comment on our own, local, domestic, precious subjects ?

Phos isn't just any johnny foreigner.

[Phos]

	Quote:	Dougal's Breakfast
	So a little less triumphant squawking from disinterested, thrill-seeking foreigners like you would be appreciated. Cheers. Now piss off.

Hah, no I can comment as I am an interested thrill-seeking foreigner who is particularly grateful towards the UK for Brexit at the moment.

[SOBEIT]

Anyone fancy a pint with Corbyn?

[Dougal's Breakfast]

	Quote:	SOBEIT
	Anyone fancy a pint with Corbyn?

Only if he's paying.

I quite fancy shadow foreign secretary. Do you think he'd let me work from home?

[JagWaugh]

	Quote:	SOBEIT
	Anyone fancy a pint with Corbyn?

Sure, why not. He'd have to promise not to lose control though.

[Phos]

Folks, while many of you are Brits, and it did take place there, I think you ought to know that its impact is bigger than the UK. So just to take some focus out of the UK for a moment, which you really could use some relief, I'd like to note that the event is global. So no offense for appropriating it.

Henry Kissinger wrote an article on the Wall Street Journal, and I think he's implying here that from a global perspective, the crisis in Europe is partly due to withdrawal of US engagement:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/out-of-t...ity-1467151419

I'm not sure, but I think this is another "Thanks Obama" commentary.

[Chuff]

	Quote:	manwithnoname

The time traveler one is pretty damn funny.

[CathHarmony]

	Quote:	baboon
	If you check your source you will see that that map is titled "Much of the eastern part of the plateau has become part of the "Greater Zurich Area". ONLY THE EAST. The Mittelland is the whole of the area between Alps and Jura, from Genfersee in the South-West to Bodensee in the North-East. I took the population density from this page which quotes 450 persons per Km2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Switzerland Oh and free health care remains free regardless of any hoops you might have to go through. And does not get you thrown out of the country either.

my wiki pages says

"Even though the Swiss Plateau takes only about 30% of the surface of Switzerland, 5 million people live there, which constitutes more than two thirds of the Swiss population. The population density is 380 people per square kilometer." Could be older data than yours.

Consider this, the UK figures are probably significantly under what its really like, its not like Switzerland where you have to register in 10 days, i suspect we have a large unrepresented in the stats pop (I know a good friend , oxbridge who was hiding her american boyfriend).

So whats up? Why did this get your back up that you groaned me. Switzerland looking mercenary make you feel bad and ashamed? They brain drain and cherry pick on steroids and have many different ways they remove people no longer useful to them, which they use actively.

Mechanisms the UK does not have.

The concession we recently got was most likely not 'free'. You think Cameron went to the EU asked for this and everyone said yes lets give the UK that for free, no, something was probably exacted we as the public just don't know what exactly.

Plenty of anectdotal evidence on here that even if you just take the discounted health payment option, bubye... you are invited to leave, be more of a burden than that what do you think happens?

[JagWaugh]

	Quote:	CathHarmony
	my wiki pages says ... So whats up? Why did this get your back up that you groaned me. Switzerland looking mercenary make you feel bad and ashamed? They brain drain and cherry pick on steroids and have many different ways they remove people no longer useful to them, which they use actively. ...

Cath, if you want to make comparisons, why not actually do some mathematics.

Compare:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig...United_Kingdom

with

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr...to_Switzerland

Here is a hint: Look at the numbers with the funny % sign behind them. Which one is bigger? How much bigger?

[moggy]

	Quote:	JagWaugh
	I saw a video clip last night taken on a London bus. Some Yobbo spouting anti polish crap. I find that disturbing, but not particularly surprising. What I do find really disturbing however, was the fact that the vast majority of the rest of the people on the bus were just sitting there staring into space, fiddling with their phones. Something close to 52% of them voted leave, and the other 48% didn't.

Correction 52% of Londoner did not vote leave.

I was on a London bus on Friday where there was a verbal confrontation between immigrants downstairs and noticed no one on phones. I missed the start of it of augument, basically there were women of the same nationality of one woman who was one side of the augument who were silently mouthing to her to be quiet. The woman got off the bus, the bus driver stopped the bus and by the time he stepped out of his driving cabin to find out what was going on, the woman was off the bus.

The first couple of days were very hard for us in UK, with the news of the Prime Minister resigning & off to see the Queen. I myself was in a slight panic, as we do not have a Deputy Prime Minister. At the time I wish we had the Singapore system in place. Well he is still the Prime Minister until a successor is voted for the Tory Party, panic over.

It was a pity the vote was so close, 634,751 who might have voted the other way. If it was 60:40 or higher would have been better, ce la vie

Next time we have a General Election, I would hope to see a number of changes, as many of us are disgusted with all the in-fighting between politians. Wish the same could be done about certain newspapers who have been busy stirring matters before and after the vote.

[JoeUK]

	Quote:	SOBEIT
	Anyone fancy a pint with Corbyn?

Not the shadow, shadow education minister it seems. Two days in the job.

[smackerjack]

What is the sad part is how much the remainers and brexiters between friends and families has caused so much unpleasantness.

I am in the UK and went to a meal last weekend with 10 other people - they were equally divided and the feelings were so strong that to be honest the evening was ruined and some people who have been friends were many years came really close to having a major fallout.

One of my UK neighbours confessed to me that their son was not speaking to them because of their vote.

[RufusB]

	Quote:	Phos
	Folks, while many of you are Brits, and it did take place there, I think you ought to know that its impact is bigger than the UK. So just to take some focus out of the UK for a moment, which you really could use some relief, I'd like to note that the event is global. So no offense for appropriating it.

Eh? And what? Of course "it took place there". It wasn't the sodding Mad Hatter's Tea Party. Or maybe it was. That would explain a few things. And most people are well aware of the global impact, but you know that.


I wasn't sure there, for a moment or two, but this post really helped me make my mind up about you. Well, your EF persona anyway. I hope you park it at the edge of the internet and don't take it home with you.

[dodgyken]

	Quote:	JagWaugh
	Something close to 52% of them voted leave, and the other 48% didn't.

But we've been told a thousand times that Londoners voted stay.

I'm guessing the racist commuted down from somewhere frightful and northern for a day out in the capital being a racist wanker.

You can't say those Brexiters aren't motivated by the cause.