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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
|    | 49 | 23.11% |
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
|    | 33 | 15.57% |  | | | 
01.07.2016, 00:43
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I'm not sure how that would make any difference.
What distinguishes Trump from the cockwombles is that he says the things that the cockwombles have spent their lives learning not to say. | | | | |
It wouldn't make any difference at all, however the entertainment (in a traffic accident kind of way) would be immense. I'd just like to see them try have a conversation/interview, for my own amusement.
Or Louis Theroux - has he ever interviewed Trump? | Quote: | |  | | | "Humour can get in under the door while seriousness is still fumbling at the handle" - Chesterton | | | | |
Exactly.
BTW "Cockwomble" has sneaked into my current top 5 insulting names list, knocking "twatfink" down to 6th.
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01.07.2016, 00:53
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I was reading that the French finance minister has raised hopes that a new British PM might be able to negotiate access to the single market while curbing EU arrivals.
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01.07.2016, 01:17
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Meanwhile, Corbyn is taking a page from Trump's playbook. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36676018
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01.07.2016, 01:26
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | What is truly desperate is this latest attempt to smear Jeremy Corbyn.. it just never stops
Is this really anti-semitism?
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01.07.2016, 01:43
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British politics right now is making American politics look staid and boring again. Your controversies certainly have more facets with a lot more flare.
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01.07.2016, 02:05
| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | What is truly desperate is this latest attempt to smear Jeremy Corbyn.. it just never stops 
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Is this really anti-semitism? | | | | | Wow! I understood what he said, and the best of its intentions. Except he did somehow equate the Israeli government with ISIS in a HUGE gaffe that was so genuinely said in true living color, that there is hardly any room for him to walk it back. Huge OOPS!
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01.07.2016, 02:08
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | I think you're giving him way too much credit.
Corbyn isn't a troll. He actually believes what he says and when he offends an ally, its not part of a Trumpesque diabolical plan, but its because he hasn't thought things through.
His honesty is what many people like about him, and I think he deserves kudos for that. But sometimes his stumblings can reveal the more unpleasant sides of his character.
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01.07.2016, 02:29
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Risitas gives his assessment
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01.07.2016, 07:59
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: |  | | | It wouldn't make any difference at all, however the entertainment (in a traffic accident kind of way) would be immense. | | | | | Perhaps my earnestness has the upper hand over my sense of humour. As the holder of a Canadian passport I am concerned that the neighbors to the south are about to choose between a reptile and an alien in a human suit.
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01.07.2016, 08:17
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I think you're giving him way too much credit.
Corbyn isn't a troll. He actually believes what he says and when he offends an ally, its not part of a Trumpesque diabolical plan, but its because he hasn't thought things through.
His honesty is what many people like about him, and I think he deserves kudos for that. But sometimes his stumblings can reveal the more unpleasant sides of his character. | | | | | I've watched the clip and I fail to see how what he says indicates that he is an anti Semite. He did mention Israel and ISIS in the same sentence, but then again, so did I. Perhaps I am too thick, perhaps I am an anti Semite: thick would explain more of my personal experience.
I think Corbyn is a decent honest man, and I suspect that is exactly his problem. I also think that this is exactly what has gone wrong in politics worldwide since Gerald Ford fell down the steps of Airforce one.
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01.07.2016, 09:29
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01.07.2016, 09:33
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Just found a fiver in my pocket.
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Blair potentially signals his interest as negotitator http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...-talks-that-w/ | This user would like to thank vuachère for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I've watched the clip and I fail to see how what he says indicates that he is an anti Semite. He did mention Israel and ISIS in the same sentence, but then again, so did I. Perhaps I am too thick, perhaps I am an anti Semite: thick would explain more of my personal experience. | | | | | I'm as thick as you are, then.
There are some sensitive little flowers out there who are just itching to be offended. They see racism, sexism, all sorts of ism in just about anything. I've probably just been flowerist (florist?) in this post.
I'd vote Trump if I could, just to get rid of the PC curse. Is he the alien or the other one?
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01.07.2016, 09:53
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I'd vote Trump if I could, just to get rid of the PC curse. Is he the alien or the other one? | | | | | Yes.
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01.07.2016, 09:58
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Welcome to this Airmageddon flight, we will be serving our complementary breakfast in a few moments. Todays menu offers you the choice between a broken glass, or a Sulphuric acid omlette. | | | | | I'll bet the H2SO4 omelette is illegal huevos rancheros in disguise. Trump told me that's a bad, bad omelette. I'll take the broken glass, it'll come in useful in a street fight against some tacos and a quesadilla pool boy.
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o, let me get this straight… the leader of the opposition campaigned to stay but secretly wanted to leave, so his party held a non-binding vote to shame him into resigning so someone else could lead the campaign to ignore the result of the non-binding referendum which many people now think was just angry people trying to shame politicians into seeing they’d all done nothing to help them.
Meanwhile, the man who campaigned to leave because he hoped losing would help him win the leadership of his party, accidentally won and ruined any chance of leading because the man who thought he couldn’t lose, did – but resigned before actually doing the thing the vote had been about. The man who’d always thought he’d lead next, campaigned so badly that everyone thought he was lying when he said the economy would crash – and he was, but it did, but he’s not resigned, but, like the man who lost and the man who won, also now can’t become leader. Which means the woman who quietly campaigned to stay but always said she wanted to leave is likely to become leader instead.
Which means she holds the same view as the leader of the opposition but for opposite reasons, but her party’s view of this view is the opposite of the opposition’s. And the opposition aren’t yet opposing anything because the leader isn’t listening to his party, who aren’t listening to the country, who aren’t listening to experts or possibly paying that much attention at all. However, none of their opponents actually want to be the one to do the thing that the vote was about, so there’s not yet anything actually on the table to oppose anyway. And if no one ever does do the thing that most people asked them to do, it will be undemocratic and if any one ever does do it, it will be awful.   | The following 2 users would like to thank veikko99 for this useful post: | | 
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Meanwhile - I like this chart | The following 2 users would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | o, let me get this straight… the leader of the opposition campaigned to stay but secretly wanted to leave, so his party held a non-binding vote to shame him into resigning so someone else could lead the campaign to ignore the result of the non-binding referendum which many people now think was just angry people trying to shame politicians into seeing they’d all done nothing to help them.
Meanwhile, the man who campaigned to leave because he hoped losing would help him win the leadership of his party, accidentally won and ruined any chance of leading because the man who thought he couldn’t lose, did – but resigned before actually doing the thing the vote had been about. The man who’d always thought he’d lead next, campaigned so badly that everyone thought he was lying when he said the economy would crash – and he was, but it did, but he’s not resigned, but, like the man who lost and the man who won, also now can’t become leader. Which means the woman who quietly campaigned to stay but always said she wanted to leave is likely to become leader instead.
Which means she holds the same view as the leader of the opposition but for opposite reasons, but her party’s view of this view is the opposite of the opposition’s. And the opposition aren’t yet opposing anything because the leader isn’t listening to his party, who aren’t listening to the country, who aren’t listening to experts or possibly paying that much attention at all. However, none of their opponents actually want to be the one to do the thing that the vote was about, so there’s not yet anything actually on the table to oppose anyway. And if no one ever does do the thing that most people asked them to do, it will be undemocratic and if any one ever does do it, it will be awful. | | | | | Not really sure this guff needed re-posting.
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Scary thought , TM or MG as PM.
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