The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[marton]

	Quote:	amogles
	Interesting folks these EFers. In Switzerland Blocher has won a large number of populist referenda. And these EFers all cry, time for him to step back. In the UKIP, Farage and Boris win a referendum, and the same people cry, what cowards to be stepping back.

"In Switzerland Blocher has won a large number of populist referenda." What is your definition of "large"? 3, or 4?
How many were lost 10, or 12?

[OSueco]

	Quote:	amogles
	That would perfectly match the view that with UKIP being a single issue party, and that goal being achieved, they can pack up and quit.

sounds pretty much like another right wing party here in CH...:roll eyes:

"Hey Ueli, now when you have a chance to make an impact on immigration as the new minister for EJPD instead of SS which you in SVP says makes a really terrible job...." Ueli - Nei, kä Luscht! (I don't feel like it...)

Translate: "We in SVP don't want to see any changes we just like to focking cry and lie just about everything and take no responsibility what so ever..."

[marton]

	Quote:	vuachère
	Bloomberg reports that Farage has quit being leader of UKIP! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...pendence-party

You know if Brexit referendum had never happened and one of us had written a novel on this topic with all the facts that have emerged then nobody would have believed it

[marton]

	Quote:	Phos
	Still so much hogwash to avoid the obvious. I think it is insulting to suggest the UK voted for Brexit because they are mostly ignorant and misinformed fools. I suppose it is like suggesting those who voted Remain lacked self-respect, and lacked a sense of identity. I'm not British, yet I find it insulting for the country. For sure, the insinuations are self-denigrating and counter productive for the country. If anything, I see they voted for Brexit because they still had some self-respect left for their culture and themselves. That deserves kudos and encouragement. That deserves congratulations, AFAIC. And I believe they will reap the rewards of it, while avoiding all the incompetent failures of the EU. Honestly, I think those who voted for Brexit were simply smarter than those who are crying about it now.

" I think it is insulting to suggest the UK voted for Brexit because they are mostly ignorant and misinformed fools. " The truth always hurts. Every poll showed most of the educated people voted remain.
Perhaps you can quote an opposite source?

[marton]

The [British] government has refused to guarantee that foreign European Union nationals already in the UK will be allowed to remain once Britain leaves the EU,

Source

[yacek]

	Quote:	marton
	The [British] government has refused to guarantee that foreign European Union nationals already in the UK will be allowed to remain once Britain leaves the EU, Source

Typical Übermensch attitude.

[Castro]

	Quote:	marton
	The [British] government has refused to guarantee that foreign European Union nationals already in the UK will be allowed to remain once Britain leaves the EU, Source

To quote Michael Heseltine, all of these issues were known and warned about before the vote. I guess over the coming months and years it will be one obvious headline after the other.

	Quote:	Phos
	No, it came from the number of the electorate here: http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results 46,501,241 Those of that number that didn't vote apparently felt neutral enough to not vote, which is a position they've taken in itself.

33 million voters voted for a 72% turnout, fixed

	Quote:	marton
	The [British] government has refused to guarantee that foreign European Union nationals already in the UK will be allowed to remain once Britain leaves the EU, Source

I'm surprised that the "if you don't like it, then you can leave the country" brigade not using the same rules on Brexit as they would in Switzerland.

[PaddyG]

	Quote:	marton
	" I think it is insulting to suggest the UK voted for Brexit because they are mostly ignorant and misinformed fools. " The truth always hurts. Every poll showed most of the educated people voted remain. Perhaps you can quote an opposite source?

"Educated" is not a synonym for "Intelligent"

[Mikers]

	Quote:	marton
	" I think it is insulting to suggest the UK voted for Brexit because they are mostly ignorant and misinformed fools. " The truth always hurts. Every poll showed most of the educated people voted remain. Perhaps you can quote an opposite source?

And this is a critical point. the fault of this whole mess lies squarely with the Government as it ignored the Educational (and just about every other) needs of the poor to pursue its own goals.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Castro
	To quote Michael Heseltine, all of these issues were known and warned about before the vote. I guess over the coming months and years it will be one obvious headline after the other.

Its not very realistic though and its in line with most of the statements before the vote (5% income tax, war in europe, disease etc etc). all the other candidates said the opposite (that EU nationals can stay) but funnily enough no one picks them up, they focus on Theresa May's angle.

	Quote:	marton
	The [British] government has refused to guarantee that foreign European Union nationals already in the UK will be allowed to remain once Britain leaves the EU, Source

This is not a point you tip before getting a guarantee on UK Nationals living in an EU country. No guarantee is the proper response at this point in time.

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	" I think it is insulting to suggest the UK voted for Brexit because they are mostly ignorant and misinformed fools. " The truth always hurts. Every poll showed most of the educated people voted remain. Perhaps you can quote an opposite source?

So you are saying people who haven't been to university are ignorant and misinformed fools?

[yacek]

	Quote:	Phos
	This is not a point you tip before getting a guarantee on UK Nationals living in an EU country. No guarantee is the proper response at this point in time.

I thought there is a difference between people and other subjects.

	Quote:	PaddyG
	"Educated" is not a synonym for "Intelligent"

well no, not always, I agree:

https://www.facebook.com/veryBrexitp...7496853059503/

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4New...3842562976939/

the opposite doesn't really always work either

[dodgyken]

It will be announced today that Britain will break the Channel Tunnel connection and set sail for its new location on Tuesday 9th August.

In the upcoming weeks the secret engines and turbines that were outfitted to the country between the 2 world wars will undergo tests to confirm they are still in working order. Last time this was needed, in 1973, everything worked perfectly, as expected for fine British engineering.

Rear Admiral Alex Burton will be in charge of captaining Britain as it sets sail northwards. "There will be casualties in our departure from Europe. The Isle of Man will fund their own tugs and join us once we are in open waters. Some of the Scottish isles will have to be sacrificed except those making adequate whisky"

Britains journey out of Europe is expected to take a full 12 months. "It is important that the British public are able to carry on with their daily lives, so a relaxed pace has been chosen" continued RA Burton

Britain's new location, around 50miles North West of the Azores, was chosen as it will enable Britain's tourist industry to thrive.

[JagWaugh]

	Quote:	dodgyken
	... Rear Admiral Alex Burton will be in charge of captaining Britain as it sets sail northwards. ... Britain's new location, around 50miles North West of the Azores, was chosen as it will enable Britain's tourist industry to thrive.

North, to the Azores? Did they have the gyrocompass calibrated by a politician, or a daily newspaper?

[dodgyken]

	Quote:	JagWaugh
	North, to the Azores? Did they have the gyrocompass calibrated by a politician, or a daily newspaper?

Yes - it is easier to sail up past Ireland then it is to try and get through between Ireland and France - and no one wants to edge slowly past France with just a few yards between the 2 countries in case foreign types lept aboard!

	Quote:	amogles
	So you are saying people who haven't been to university are ignorant and misinformed fools?

18-24 year old Kim Kardashian fans are said to be smarter than 45-65+ year olds. And those who believe that agree with themselves.