The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH - Page 279

marton · #**5561** 02.10.2016, 12:22

Theresa May has confirmed she will trigger article 50 before the end of March 2017, setting in motion the two-year process of leaving the European Union.

Source

Nice to have some clarity

Jim2007 · #**5562** 02.10.2016, 12:32

	Quote:	Mikers
	The people won't mind the cost because the people voted for this seperation.

Of course they will and if they don't the British Press will make sure they do with some of the usual headlines about how solicitor X eared £500 a day changing the word Commissioner to Secretary or Minister.

Jim2007 · #**5563** 02.10.2016, 12:36

	Quote:	marton
	Theresa May has confirmed she will trigger article 50 before the end of March 2017, setting in motion the two-year process of leaving the European Union. Source Nice to have some clarity

So the U.K. gets to provide the political entertainment again next summer! Definitely better than that Greek show that was playing last summer

JagWaugh · #**5564** 02.10.2016, 12:48

	Quote:	Jim2007
	So the U.K. gets to provide the political entertainment again next summer! Definitely better than that Greek show that was playing last summer

I'll be happy if it is less of a Benny Hill revival than Brexit was, and has been since the vote.

Mikers · #**5565** 02.10.2016, 12:48

	Quote:	marton
	Theresa May has confirmed she will trigger article 50 before the end of March 2017, setting in motion the two-year process of leaving the European Union. Source Nice to have some clarity

yes, full steam ahead now.

marton · #**5566** 02.10.2016, 12:49

	Quote:	marton
	Some lawyers LOL If we count every law passed by the European Commission between 1993 and 2014 as a "UK law from Brussels" then there have been 49,699 of them. This is probably too high since some laws relate to non-UK things like Olive growing. So let us take a smaller number, say 20,000? How many lawyers will it take to rewrite these? Depends if they are short or long laws? How many will have to be voted on in Parliament? "The people won't mind the cost" Apart from those who thought some money savings would go to the NHS "Boris Johnson says NHS will get substantial extra funds after Brexit" Source

Seems I got it wrong

May and the Brexit secretary, David Davis, will announce the government’s plan to repeal the 1972 European Communities Act and there will be new legislation to transpose EU legislation into British law, in its entirety,

That law will only come into force on the day Britain leaves the EU, with future governments then able to unpick those laws as desired.

So the"good news" for the leavers is the UK will continue to have to follow all EU laws until March 2019; after that date then maybe some future Govt. will change things

Source

marton · #**5567** 02.10.2016, 12:57

	Quote:	marton
	Theresa May has confirmed she will trigger article 50 before the end of March 2017, setting in motion the two-year process of leaving the European Union. Source Nice to have some clarity

	Quote:	Jim2007
	So the U.K. gets to provide the political entertainment again next summer! Definitely better than that Greek show that was playing last summer

Nine months after the referendum; hope it is a healthy baby

The next French presidential election is scheduled to be held in April and May 2017 and the German Govt. elections probably in Sept. 2017, anyway before 22nd. October.
So full steam ahead is unlikely

marton · #**5568** 02.10.2016, 15:13

	Quote:	marton
	Seems I got it wrong May and the Brexit secretary, David Davis, will announce the government’s plan to repeal the 1972 European Communities Act and there will be new legislation to transpose EU legislation into British law, in its entirety, That law will only come into force on the day Britain leaves the EU, with future governments then able to unpick those laws as desired. So the"good news" for the leavers is the UK will continue to have to follow all EU laws until March 2019; after that date then maybe some future Govt. will change things Source

Some interesting thoughts here "PM has announced legislation to end authority of EU law. But why leave if we are transposing its laws into British law?" Worth reading!
Source

Blueangel · #**5569** 02.10.2016, 15:28

	Quote:	marton
	Some interesting thoughts here "PM has announced legislation to end authority of EU law. But why leave if we are transposing its laws into British law?" Worth reading! Source

Basically, instead of doing a pck'n'mix, she's buying the entire sweet shop then Parliament will spend decades deciding want to keep the pear drops or mint humbugs, or change the humbugs for mint imperials.

If this works, it could be May's master stroke, but she freely admits that she'll face opposition on all sides.

Mikers · #**5570** 02.10.2016, 16:12

I see it more as what the government promised: no loss of things like workers rights while keeping control within the uk.

Blueangel · #**5571** 02.10.2016, 17:35

Anna Soubry on Peston this morning, said...

"Parliament should be triggering Article 50, not the Prime Minister."

Totally agree!

Urs Max · #**5572** 02.10.2016, 18:04

	Quote:	Mikers
	I see it more as what the government promised: no loss of things like workers rights while keeping control within the uk.

So it's a bad thing if the EU creates some set of laws that the UK has to follow as EU member, but if the UK incorporates the very same set of laws as part of Brexit that set of laws is a good thing.

I'm sure this makes sense. Somehow.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Anna Soubry on Peston this morning, said... "Parliament should be triggering Article 50, not the Prime Minister." Totally agree!

The parliament makes the laws, government acts on them. So the parliament should create a law that orders the goverment to invoke article 50

marton · #**5573** 02.10.2016, 18:37

May's speech today; She urges people to get behind the team of ministers working for Brext: David Davis, Liam Fox, Priti Patel and Boris Johnson.

Patel? The fourth Musketeer?

What is the old saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth"?

Isn't Patel the lady who thinks the IMF is EU funded? Source

Oh well, better to avoid having people who know what they are talking about

Mikers · #**5574** 02.10.2016, 21:22

	Quote:	Urs Max
	So it's a bad thing if the EU creates some set of laws that the UK has to follow as EU member, but if the UK incorporates the very same set of laws as part of Brexit that set of laws is a good thing. I'm sure this makes sense. Somehow. The parliament makes the laws, government acts on them. So the parliament should create a law that orders the goverment to invoke article 50

Yes, you've got it in a nutshell. We mirror the European laws as is then modify as we want. Just the sort of common sense approach you would want to minimize disruption.

#**5575** 02.10.2016, 21:29

	Quote:	Mikers
	Yes, you've got it in a nutshell. We mirror the European laws as is then modify as we want. Just the sort of common sense approach you would want to minimize disruption.

... they can modify as much as they want - as long as they don't want to export to EU... (at least before the UK had a strong say re rules, etc- after Brexit they will just have to abide by them, without having a say. Progress indeed...Same for tarifs).

Mikers · #**5576** 02.10.2016, 21:48

	Quote:
	... they can modify as much as they want - as long as they don't want to export to EU... (at least before the UK had a strong say re rules, etc- after Brexit they will just have to abide by them, without having a say. Progress indeed...Same for tarifs).

Yes of course, one would assume that you could only modify ones that were concerning the UK in that sense.

#**5577** 02.10.2016, 21:50

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/782575747470725120

Tim Farron says it better than I could.

If there are any nutters (surely not) who are here in CH on UK pensions in £ - they better hold on tight to their knicker elastic - a rocky ride indeed

Jim2007 · #**5578** 02.10.2016, 22:02

	Quote:	Mikers
	Yes, you've got it in a nutshell. We mirror the European laws as is then modify as we want. Just the sort of common sense approach you would want to minimize disruption.

Except that EU regulations will have to drafted and incorporated into UK law, unlike directives that are UK law. Other wise some kind of catch all law will be needed.

Mikers · #**5579** 02.10.2016, 22:04

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Except that EU regulations will have to drafted and incorporated into UK law, unlike directives that are UK law. Other wise some kind of catch all law will be needed.

OK well we'll do that then I expect. Whatever needs to be done I'm sure they will do it.

Blueangel · #**5580** 03.10.2016, 02:56

	Quote:	marton
	Patel? The fourth Musketeer? What is the old saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth"? Isn't Patel the lady who thinks the IMF is EU funded? Source Oh well, better to avoid having people who know what they are talking about

You know Wolverine when his claws come out?
That's me every time I hear Priti Patel speak.

She's the complete antithesis of everything I think and believe in.