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I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union
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I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU
|    | 68 | 32.08% |
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK
|    | 22 | 10.38% |
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing
|    | 23 | 10.85% |
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us
|    | 17 | 8.02% |
I don't really care
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04.11.2016, 16:02
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Isn't that a call for high treason? The army after all is sworn to the monarch. | | | | | Interesting thought that the RN do no swear an oath of allegiance, or at least they did not 30+ years.
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04.11.2016, 16:21
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Interesting thought that the RN do no swear an oath of allegiance, or at least they did not 30+ years. | | | | | Isn't that because they're under Royal prerogative anyway? Just asking because an ex was in the RNFAA and always refered to it as The Queen's Royal Navy.
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04.11.2016, 16:40
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So what about all those who voted for Brexit, only to be told their vote was only an advisory? After all, the government promised them that they would act on the outcome as voted for by the people. There was no mention of the High Court or parliamentary debates. All most people will see is a seemingly rather well-off city investment manager, married to a hedge-fund manager, taking away their vote because "it made her physically sick". So if the court appeal loses and it goes to parliament and they still vote Brexit, will the remainers finally shut up?
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04.11.2016, 16:48
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Isn't that because they're under Royal prerogative anyway? Just asking because an ex was in the RNFAA and always refered to it as The Queen's Royal Navy. | | | | | I would think so, same as the air force.
Which to me indicates that the army isn't intended to be used outwards only, but also inwards, against the local population itself. Not what I'd like if I was British. | Quote: | |  | | | So if the court appeal loses and it goes to parliament and they still vote Brexit, will the remainers finally shut up? | | | | | What's freedom of opinion and freedom of speech?
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04.11.2016, 16:58
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | So what about all those who voted for Brexit, only to be told their vote was only an advisory? After all, the government promised them that they would act on the outcome as voted for by the people. There was no mention of the High Court or parliamentary debates. All most people will see is a seemingly rather well-off city investment manager, married to a hedge-fund manager, taking away their vote because "it made her physically sick". | | | | | It seems that the court action was crowd-funded and the money is now coming in to challenge the appeal. Crowdfunded bid to keep Brexit ruling in the Supreme Court raises £20,000 in two HOURS
I noticed a comment on a pro-EU Facebook page today from someone saying that it was wrong to say that the action was something organised by the "elite" or people who were "loaded", as they had contributed to the crowd-funding and qualified for housing benefit. | Quote: |  | | | So if the court appeal loses and it goes to parliament and they still vote Brexit, will the remainers finally shut up? | | | | | I doubt it! | This user would like to thank Reb77Br for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I picked it at random. lets say York then, is that a bit more cultural for you ? | | | | | Fine. York voted 58% remain.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Fine. York voted 58% remain. | | | | | good-o so thats 42% really angry people now.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | So if the court appeal loses and it goes to parliament and they still vote Brexit, will the remainers finally shut up? | | | | | No. | This user would like to thank Blueangel for this useful post: | | 
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I recently read that June 2016 was only the third British referendum ever, so maybe we can forgive the difficulties?
Maybe there will be more trouble ahead. The UK Supreme Court have made about 6 judgments per month so far this year. More newspapers could be sold in January when their lordships hand down their opinion.
As there is no possibility of any further appeal in the UK, the government's appeal could then be sent to the Court of European Justice in Luxembourg, now that will be something for Nigel Farage to look forward too!
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | There's screwed up loons on both sides of the argument: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b09d57a9a8254d | The following 2 users would like to thank PaddyG for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Isn't that because they're under Royal prerogative anyway? Just asking because an ex was in the RNFAA and always refered to it as The Queen's Royal Navy. | | | | | I don't know much about it really. At the time I was in the Irish navel reserve and the oath I took was:
- Loyalty to Ireland
- Defend the constitution
- Obey all lawful orders of senior officers
- Not be or become a member of any oath bound secret organisation
A few of my colleagues went on to server as officers in the RN on the basis that the RN did not consider their Irish oath be be an issue as they were not required to take an oath on joining the RN.
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04.11.2016, 18:37
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | The UK Supreme Court have never ever convened before! | | | | | And yet they made a one of their first decisions way back in 2009. The UK Supreme Count took over from the Law Lords back in 2009 and have been issuing rulings ever since. Check their website. | Quote: | |  | | | As there is no possibility of any further appeal in the UK, the matter could then be sent to the Court of European Justice in Luxembourg, now that will be something for Nigel Farage to look forward to! | | | | | Just because there is no further possibility to appeal beyond the Supreme Court does not mean it can be heard by the CEJ. For the CEJ to hear the case there must be a point of EU law or EU treaty in question.
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04.11.2016, 19:06
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | So what about all those who voted for Brexit, only to be told their vote was only an advisory? After all, the government promised them that they would act on the outcome as voted for by the people. There was no mention of the High Court or parliamentary debates. All most people will see is a seemingly rather well-off city investment manager, married to a hedge-fund manager, taking away their vote because "it made her physically sick". So if the court appeal loses and it goes to parliament and they still vote Brexit, will the remainers finally shut up? | | | | | "will the remainers finally shut up?"
Well think of a General Election; a party gets a majority and runs the country for a while and then there is another election after some years with the same or a different result and so on every few years.
Why should Brexit voting be only once and then keep quiet?
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | So what about all those who voted for Brexit, only to be told their vote was only an advisory? After all, the government promised them that they would act on the outcome as voted for by the people. There was no mention of the High Court or parliamentary debates. All most people will see is a seemingly rather well-off city investment manager, married to a hedge-fund manager, taking away their vote because "it made her physically sick". So if the court appeal loses and it goes to parliament and they still vote Brexit, will the remainers finally shut up? | | | | | "There was no mention of the High Court or parliamentary debates." Matter of interest how did you think Brexit would be implemented?
Did you ever try to cancel a fixed term mortgage or a car leasing agreement?
Now we are cancelling a long term multi billion contract; it is not like simply jumping off a train at a station before the end of the line | 
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | I recently read that June 2016 was only the third British referendum ever, so maybe we can forgive the difficulties?
Maybe more trouble ahead. The UK Supreme Court have never ever convened before! More newspapers could be sold in January when their lordships hand down their opinion.
As there is no possibility of any further appeal in the UK, the matter could then be sent to the Court of European Justice in Luxembourg, now that will be something for Nigel Farage to look forward to! | | | | | "I recently read that June 2016 was only the third British referendum ever, " Depends on your definition! There have been 12 referendums since 1973 but only three that required voters across the whole of the UK.
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | LOL!
I thought Brexit was about not abiding by decisions by the European Court of Justice.
Turns out it was about not accepting any sort of law!!
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | Fine. York voted 58% remain. | | | | | This is sadly somehow a microcosm of the whole Brexit affair.
All driven by perceptions and almost no facts allowed | 
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| | Re: The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in | Quote: | |  | | | "There was no mention of the High Court or parliamentary debates." Matter of interest how did you think Brexit would be implemented?
Did you ever try to cancel a fixed term mortgage or a car leasing agreement?
Now we are cancelling a long term multi billion contract; it is not like simply jumping off a train at a station before the end of the line  | | | | | Don't you think the electorate had a right to know the ramifications of the result of the vote? As it was sold, the government would abide by the result. Your analogy is simplistic to say the least, the terms and conditions of a mortgage or leasing are quite clear; this is evidently not the case here.
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