The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Blueangel]

BNP and EDL are despicable human beings. They're scum. They're Jeremy Kyle candidates. Do I need to go on?

[Odile]

... and they just can't wait for a 'good' riot

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Odile
	... and they just can't wait for a 'good' riot

They're just rebranded NF, BM and Column 88, and all part of a Worldwide organisation that includes groups throughout Europe and America. I'd send them in first to fight for the liberation of Mosul. They wouldn't last 5 minutes.

GBP up against the USD. And a trade deal with the US just got a whole lot easier.

[k_and_e]

the good thing for the UK is that nobody cares about Brexit when Trump becomes president...

[FrankZappa]

EU MEP proposes amendment so that individual British citizens be allowed free movement within the EU after a hard Brexit.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7405196.html

Seems like a good move towards a less violent resolution, but no -

Jayne Adye, director of the Get Britain Out campaign described the proposal as divisive and said it was “totally unacceptable” for British people to retain the advantages of EU membership.

“This is an outrage. The EU is now attempting to divide the great British public at the exact moment we need unity. 17.4 million people voted to Leave the EU on 23 June and as a result the UK as a whole will get Brexit,” she said.

Sigh...

[baboon]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	GBP up against the USD. And a trade deal with the US just got a whole lot easier.

I take it you've not bothered to see what Trump thinks about trade deals then.


A trade deal for anyone with the US is now off the cards for the next 4 years. At least that means TTIP is dead.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	GBP up against the USD. And a trade deal with the US just got a whole lot easier.

You are talking about the Trump who is against trade deals

Oh its you Loz

The GBP now down again against the USD

Asian stock markets are crashing down.

	Quote:	marton
	You are talking about the Trump who is against trade deals

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKCN0Y60AY

[baboon]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKCN0Y60AY

True, the UK won't be at the back of the queue - cos there will be no queue. Trump won't be doing any trade deals. Quite the reverse.

[JoeUK]

	Quote:	marton
	You are talking about the Trump who is against trade deals Oh its you Loz The GBP now down again against the USD Asian stock markets are crashing down.

Safe haven BTC +5%.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	GBP up against the USD. And a trade deal with the US just got a whole lot easier.

True if you agree to give him everything he needs to 'Make America Great Again' and expect SFA in return!

I wonder if this will happen:

https://www.google.ch/search?q=nigel...ean+ambassador

it would make the negotiations very interesting

[marton]

	Quote:	Zurichowl
	I wonder if this will happen: https://www.google.ch/search?q=nigel...ean+ambassador it would make the negotiations very interesting

The whole selection of Trump's Cabinet is kept very quiet; will be interesting to see who is selected and if any are from the swamp!

Just days before British Theresa May lands in India for her three-day visit to discuss trade the UK government has announced changes to its visa policy for non-EU nationals, which will negatively affect a large number of Indians especially IT professionals; diplomatic not!

Under the new visa rules announced by the UK Home Office, anyone applying after November 24 under the Tier 2 intra-company transfer (ICT) category would be required to meet a higher salary threshold requirement of 30,000 pounds from the earlier 20,800 pounds.

May's approach to the Indians of "we are open for more trade but cracking down on immigration" has not exactly proven to be a winner

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	The whole selection of Trump's Cabinet is kept very quiet; will be interesting to see who is selected and if any are from the swamp! Just days before British Theresa May lands in India for her three-day visit to discuss trade the UK government has announced changes to its visa policy for non-EU nationals, which will negatively affect a large number of Indians especially IT professionals; diplomatic not! Under the new visa rules announced by the UK Home Office, anyone applying after November 24 under the Tier 2 intra-company transfer (ICT) category would be required to meet a higher salary threshold requirement of 30,000 pounds from the earlier 20,800 pounds. May's approach to the Indians of "we are open for more trade but cracking down on immigration" has not exactly proven to be a winner

Maybe she's trying to pull a Trump here. Open the negotiation with preposterous demands and then act magnanimous by meeting the other side mid way?

The risk of that strategy is, of course, that if the other side is not deseprate for a deal they can and probably will walk away.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	marton
	The whole selection of Trump's Cabinet is kept very quiet; will be interesting to see who is selected and if any are from the swamp! Just days before British Theresa May lands in India for her three-day visit to discuss trade the UK government has announced changes to its visa policy for non-EU nationals, which will negatively affect a large number of Indians especially IT professionals; diplomatic not! Under the new visa rules announced by the UK Home Office, anyone applying after November 24 under the Tier 2 intra-company transfer (ICT) category would be required to meet a higher salary threshold requirement of 30,000 pounds from the earlier 20,800 pounds. May's approach to the Indians of "we are open for more trade but cracking down on immigration" has not exactly proven to be a winner

This is a simplification of the real topic. Intra-Company transfers within IT are known to be used to lower wages in the UK by bringing across engineers on a lower salary than would be normally paid if the piece of work were sourced locally. On one hand this is good Business practice and as it is a global workforce there shouldnt be a reason to complain. On the other side there is the consideration that by bringing across the labour at a rate the local resource cannot compete with due to their costs of living being dramatically different (a tempoary placement vs a family life with associated costs) it gives an unfair advantage to the transferee.

By raising this to 30k they are trying to ensure that the people brought across on the intra-company transfer are genuine skilled professionals and not people being hawked in on the cheap at the detrement of the local workforce.

THis is also widespread in switzerland and most European Countries that are expensive.

[baboon]

	Quote:	Mikers
	This is a simplification of the real topic. Intra-Company transfers within IT are known to be used to lower wages in the UK by bringing across engineers on a lower salary than would be normally paid if the piece of work were sourced locally. On one hand this is good Business practice and as it is a global workforce there shouldnt be a reason to complain. On the other side there is the consideration that by bringing across the labour at a rate the local resource cannot compete with due to their costs of living being dramatically different (a tempoary placement vs a family life with associated costs) it gives an unfair advantage to the transferee. By raising this to 30k they are trying to ensure that the people brought across on the intra-company transfer are genuine skilled professionals and not people being hawked in on the cheap at the detrement of the local workforce. THis is also widespread in switzerland and most European Countries that are expensive.

I think the point is the timing, not the idea....

[Reb77Br]

Theresa May seems strange here. A grimacing automaton.

Theresa May 'looks forward to working with Trump'

She apparently hasn't heard from Trump yet.

Theresa May still awaiting call from Donald Trump
"Trump has thus far talked to the leaders of Ireland, Mexico, Israel, Egypt, Turkey, India, Japan, Australia and South Korea, according to various reports."

[marton]

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	Theresa May seems strange here. A grimacing automaton. Theresa May 'looks forward to working with Trump' She apparently hasn't heard from Trump yet. Theresa May still awaiting call from Donald Trump "Trump has thus far talked to the leaders of Ireland, Mexico, Israel, Egypt, Turkey, India, Japan, Australia and South Korea, according to various reports."

Trump has his own agenda and approach. He will talk to people that he considers important for him and in his own time. He will care less if this is perceived to damage the "special relationship" with the UK.

Having said that I hope May will be able to strike up a constructive relationship with him.

Edit. She seems to make statements defining UK policies that involve other countries without really knowing if those other countries subscribe to her approach?

[rainer_d]

	Quote:	marton
	Trump has his own agenda and approach. He will talk to people that he considers important for him and in his own time. He will care less if this is perceived to damage the "special relationship" with the UK. Having said that I hope May will be able to strike up a constructive relationship with him. Edit. She seems to make statements defining UK policies that involve other countries without really knowing if those other countries subscribe to her approach?

Trump is all about the deal.
But in Trumps world, sometimes, to get a good deal for both sides, you've got to screw a 3rd-party in exchange...