The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[marton]

	Quote:	Zurichowl
	that is a typical irrational arrogant comment, that doesn't respect the ability of others to have the opinions they do. your username says it all

As a Brexit supporter you surely do not want your eligibility for a Swiss work permit to solely depend on the UK's EU membership?

[marton]

	Quote:	Britething
	Good ol' Tony's back: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ays-tony-blair Finally trying to make himself useful.

	Quote:
	MPs vote down motion accusing Blair of misleading them over Iraq by majority of 369

Looks like the way is open for Tony

Source

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Just because the numbers are large, the process will be messy, time consuming, expensive, contentious, legally challenging, immensely disruptive and heart breaking for millions of people, doesn't mean it won't happen.

It's exactly because the numbers are large that people who are already settled will not be affected.

3.3 million from the EU living in the UK.
1.2 million Brits living in the EU.

We've moved on from population exchanges.

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	Honestly and as has been stated before, I still find it very hard to understand that any UK citizen who voted in favour of Brexit can stay here with a clear conscience unless they have strong family connections to Switzerland.

People who voted for Brexit should have a bad conscience for living in a country that itself voted not to join the EU.

Nope, me neither.

[Blueangel]

Not aiming this at anyone in particular, honestly, but have just been reminded of it... I do so many Brexiteers believe it's ok to not use proper punctuation in their online posts.

When Brits start getting kicked out of Switzerland because of Brexit, I hope a few people here will eat their words. If it's me that's sent back, or any member of my family or friends who are deported from the UK, I'll do time for assault, because I will punch anyone who tells me they voted Leave and tries to rub it in.

One other little aside, the UK currently has 12 deportation detention centres, two of which, Dungavel and Cedars, are being closed. The next problem is that Harmondsworth and Colnbrook are directly affected by the Heathrow expansion plans. I worked across the road from Colnbrook from 2013-2015 and know it will have to be demolished according to the plans. So where will this new, huge detention centre be built?

https://corporatewatch.org/news/2016...tres-factsheet

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Urs Max
	Blueangel, who you replied to, says people get kicked, I provided the numbers. That's all. Except that if the situation changes these numbers will be dwarfed. That's where I got the numbers from. Voluntarily leave means: They left after the process or forceful deporation has been initiated but not progressed yet to actual deportation.

Right I'm with you. My mistake for linking the sentences. They were completely unrelated I see now.

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Not aiming this at anyone in particular, honestly, but have just been reminded of it... I do so many Brexiteers believe it's ok to not use proper punctuation in their online posts.

It's because they are thick aren't they ? It was established pages ago that they are thick, uneducated, low social class and have a bit of a problem with skin colour.

All of them.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	It's exactly because the numbers are large that people who are already settled will not be affected. 3.3 million from the EU living in the UK. 1.2 million Brits living in the EU. We've moved on from population exchanges. People who voted for Brexit should have a bad conscience for living in a country that itself voted not to join the EU. Nope, me neither.

"1.2 million Brits living in the EU." Spread across 27 countries so an average of ca. forty thousand per country; easily deported in one year.

3.3 million EU citizens living in the UK; agreed too many too handle; better to leave them there

	Quote:	marton
	As a Brexit supporter you surely do not want your eligibility for a Swiss work permit to solely depend on the UK's EU membership?

As I said before, i've worked around the world without that dependency. I have also said before that FMOP is not a sustainable activity. I speak to people in different walks of life from Switzerland, the UK and Eastern Europe and they all support BREXIT. Sure there's the counter argument, but in my opinion that's failing.

Just look at what is happening in the world. It's actually quite bizzare to want to maintain the status quo.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	Not aiming this at anyone in particular, honestly, but have just been reminded of it... I do so many Brexiteers believe it's ok to not use proper punctuation in their online posts. https://corporatewatch.org/news/2016...tres-factsheet

oh the irony

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Mikers
	It's because they are thick aren't they ? It was established pages ago that they are thick, uneducated, low social class and have a bit of a problem with skin colour. All of them.

D'uh! Now why didn't I think of that! Probably because I don't believe it.

I was looking at something far deeper than that, in that, many are far more passionate in their belief and tend to hit the ground running when they post about the matter.

Even so, some just reject punctuation.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Zurichowl
	Just look at what is happening in the world.

What is happening in the World in your view?

[marton]

	Quote:	Zurichowl
	As I said before, i've worked around the world without that dependency. I have also said before that FMOP is not a sustainable activity. I speak to people in different walks of life from Switzerland, the UK and Eastern Europe and they all support BREXIT. Sure there's the counter argument, but in my opinion that's failing. Just look at what is happening in the world. It's actually quite bizzare to want to maintain the status quo.

"they all support BREXIT" All? Did you not notice some contrary views here?

	Quote:	Blueangel
	What is happening in the World in your view?

the rejection of globalisation

[Mikers]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	D'uh! Now why didn't I think of that! Probably because I don't believe it. I was looking at something far deeper than that, in that, many are far more passionate in their belief and tend to hit the ground running when they post about the matter. Even so, some just reject punctuation.

You could have something. Brexit people certainly don't proffer complex legal conundrums and challenges, referring back to simpler points. The referendum being only advisory because of some deep legal minefield versus the government saying 'we will do what you vote for' on the form for example. Not sure it goes as far as punctuation but it highlights a different mindset in some cases perhaps.

	Quote:	marton
	"they all support BREXIT" All? Did you not notice some contrary views here?

That's what i meant by the counter argument, but yes the people i speak to agree with Brexit. In some instances i'm quite astonished, young east Europeans who say Europe has failed them. It's often the first question, oh you're from England, what about Brexit, then shock from both sides

It's also true that you tend to gravitate towards people with common interests and beliefs. I shy away from the others, it seems to be specific characters.

But i guess you have your pension interest no

[marton]

	Quote:	Mikers
	You could have something. Brexit people certainly don't proffer complex legal conundrums and challenges, referring back to simpler points. The referendum being only advisory because of some deep legal minefield versus the government saying 'we will do what you vote for' on the form for example. Not sure it goes as far as punctuation but it highlights a different mindset in some cases perhaps.

"Brexit people certainly don't proffer complex legal conundrums and challenges" Um, who started the UK petition for a second EU referendum?

[Mikers]

	Quote:	marton
	"Brexit people certainly don't proffer complex legal conundrums and challenges" Um, who started the UK petition for a second EU referendum?

I don't know. Who was it ?

	Quote:	Zurichowl
	As I said before, i've worked around the world without that dependency. I have also said before that FMOP is not a sustainable activity. I speak to people in different walks of life from Switzerland, the UK and Eastern Europe and they all support BREXIT. Sure there's the counter argument, but in my opinion that's failing. Just look at what is happening in the world. It's actually quite bizzare to want to maintain the status quo.

I OTOH have not found a single Brexit supporter excepting one single family member. Who I would describe as racist.

BTW my circle covers almost every EU and EEA country plus Switzerland.

Funny that, eh?

	Quote:	Mikers
	I don't know. Who was it ?

William Oliver Healey. A leave activist.

[Mikers]

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	I OTOH have not found a single Brexit supporter excepting one single family member. Who I would describe as racist. BTW my circle covers almost every EU and EEA country plus Switzerland. Funny that, eh?

I haven't found any people who voted remain except one and he's a paedo. Coincidence ? I think not.

My circle of friends covers the whole world.