The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Urs Max]

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	he technology changed when outside filming started to be done on video, film cameras lasted 30 years plus & specialist cameras very much longer. Whilst the BBC subsided with a license fee could afford £70k every 2 years. It was not a viable business, that was the problem. A new work tool had a high tariff, changing the landscape to protect EU manufactures from Japanese who made a better product for a lower price. How many Thompson TV's have you got at home?

I don't own any tv but yes, if I did it would proabably be a Japanese or Korean brand (are there any other?). Yet I don't see the significance, I don't think I own anything British made at all (perhaps excluding financial products). Thompson simply shared the fate of most other English industrial companies. Perhaps there's a common reason why the car companies didn't thrive until after they got bought by foreigners.

But that's not the situation you appear to have been facing, you were competing nationally only. And you remained in business, didn't you?

[Aeneas]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Greater integration has already been rejected when put to vote, see above.

Now, you're just telling porkies now, aren't you? It was rejected by two of the four 2005 referendum that were held. You've conveniently forgotten that both Luxembourg and Spain voted in favour of greater integration by 56.5% and 81.8% receptively.

So it turns out that greater integration has not been rejected when put to the vote.

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	You can't compare electing for parties in national elections to that of a direct vote in referendums. Just because people vote for pro European parties that doesn't translate to pro-European. Case in point, Conservatives won the last election and in the main were pro-EU. However people still voted to leave the EU.

I'm afraid that does not prove anything, which by your logic means that my point stands as you cannot disprove it

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Which was rejected in France and Holland. Greater integration has already been rejected when put to vote, see above. You can't compare electing for parties in national elections to that of a direct vote in referendums. Just because people vote for pro European parties that doesn't translate to pro-European. Case in point, Conservatives won the last election and in the main were pro-EU. However people still voted to leave the EU.

"Which was rejected in France and Holland." Actually no, my quote was from the revised treaty that was created after those referendums, not from the one that was rejected by those voters.

Meanwhile on Planet Chemtrails:

https://twitter.com/GuyVerhofstadt/s...08726156050432

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Meanwhile on Planet Chemtrails: https://twitter.com/GuyVerhofstadt/s...08726156050432

But Verhofstadt quoted exactly what Comey said; why do you say "Planet Chemtrails"?

Source

	Quote:	marton
	But Verhofstadt quoted exactly what Comey said; why do you say "Planet Chemtrails"? Source

Russia and populist right caused Brexit. Have a tin foil hat.

[Aeneas]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Russia and populist right caused Brexit. Have a tin foil hat.

Can you disprove it? Or are you just expecting everyone else to stand by a higher standard of discourse than yourself?

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Russia and populist right caused Brexit. Have a tin foil hat.

Must have been the liberals then?

But you always claim that UKIP caused Brexit; they are not populist right?

[marton]

Getting nasty now?

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	EU chiefs have warned airlines including easyJet and Ryanair that they will need to relocate their headquarters or sell off shares to European nationals if they want to continue flying routes within continental Europe after Brexit. Executives at major carriers have been reminded during recent private meetings with officials that to continue to operate on routes across the continent – for instance, from Milan to Paris – they must have a significant base on EU territory and that a majority of their capital shares must be EU-owned.

Source

Ryanair is headquartered in Ireland, and will not have to relocate, but it has been reported that 60% of the Dublin-registered airline’s capital shares are owned by EU nationals.
This will be reduced to 40% once UK shareholders are excluded, making it vital to increase its EU ownership to comply with regulations.

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	Getting nasty now? Source Ryanair is headquartered in Ireland, and will not have to relocate, but it has been reported that 60% of the Dublin-registered airline’s capital shares are owned by EU nationals. This will be reduced to 40% once UK shareholders are excluded, making it vital to increase its EU ownership to comply with regulations.

so how will that work?

If you log into your online trading platform and buy shares, will they put you into a waiting loop until the percentage of shareholders by country allows that?

Will they be forcing shareholders to sell shares? If yes, who decides which shareholders must sell and which can stay.

Sounds rather unworkable to me.

[marton]

	Quote:	amogles
	so how will that work? If you log into your online trading platform and buy shares, will they put you into a waiting loop until the percentage of shareholders by country allows that? Will they be forcing shareholders to sell shares? If yes, who decides which shareholders must sell and which can stay. Sounds rather unworkable to me.

Well if they are unable to make it work then the airlines involved will lose some inter EU routes.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	marton
	Getting nasty now? Source Ryanair is headquartered in Ireland, and will not have to relocate, but it has been reported that 60% of the Dublin-registered airline’s capital shares are owned by EU nationals. This will be reduced to 40% once UK shareholders are excluded, making it vital to increase its EU ownership to comply with regulations.

Far less of an issue for Easyjet as Stelios has 2 passports, so even after the UK leaves Easyjet has 49% EU ownership, easy to fix. As Easyjet already has a subsidiary in Geneva no need to do anything

	Quote:	amogles
	so how will that work? If you log into your online trading platform and buy shares, will they put you into a waiting loop until the percentage of shareholders by country allows that? Will they be forcing shareholders to sell shares? If yes, who decides which shareholders must sell and which can stay. Sounds rather unworkable to me.

Nobody needs to sell any shares, Ryanair just needs a rights issue to solve the problem......

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Just because people vote for pro European parties that doesn't translate to pro-European.

At this point we need to stop take you seriously.

[Sbrinz]

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/eu-mocks-b...111122506.html

	Quote:	Jim2007
	At this point we need to stop take you seriously.

Wow, only at this point?

	Quote:	Jim2007
	At this point we need to stop take you seriously.

Now piss off.

[Aeneas]

Just because people vote for pro European parties that doesn't translate to pro-European, but neither does it translate to anti-European and that was your claim. You came out with nonsense. This has been pointed out to you repeatedly. And it's not the first time.

Thing is you've been making such basic logical fallacies non-stop in this discussion and when it is pointed out to you,you'll ignore the point or change the subject.

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Now piss off.

Given the above, you can't really complain when people get tired with someone who carries on like that? You look like you're just throwing the toys out of your pram right now.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Now piss off.

News flash how the UK voted is no longer relevant to the decisions on the direction of the EU... That is what leave means.

	Quote:	Aeneas
	Just because people vote for pro European parties that doesn't translate to pro-European, but neither does it translate to anti-European and that was your claim. You came out with nonsense. This has been pointed out to you repeatedly. And it's not the first time.

Where have I said this

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Now piss off.

What is the objective of your post?
You provide different pictures which are not related to each other by date or content without a single word of explanation.
Perhaps you could lower yourself by explaining to us poor ordinary mortals what you are on about?
Or loan us your tinfoil hat.

Oh, and the same to you