The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

	Quote:	amogles
	It would sem to me the ripping apart of families is not so much a result of the vote itself as it is of people not accepting the outcome. Maybe there were some racists who had their coming uppance. But disillusioned remain voters who go around proclaiming that all leave voters are racists need to restore some reality.

Children? I'd say 16 and 17 year olds whose future is at stake may well have put more thought and research into their vote than the oldies going 'lalalalala Rule Britannia' - really. Many of whom have died since- and will do before the outcome is known.

As for accepting the outcome- are you of the Neil Hamilton school of thought- who told an MP at the Welsh Parliament today, heard by the full assembly, that those who don't like it always have suicide as an option?

[marton]

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	Lloyd's of London says it will establish a new European subsidiary in Brussels to avoid losing business when the UK leaves the EU. The 329-year-old insurance market confirmed the plan as it released its latest annual results.

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Lloyd's of Brussels does not have quite the same ring to it?

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	JPMorgan is in talks to buy a Dublin office building that holds 1,000 people

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Now May has confirmed UK will not remain in the single market so firms must reduce their risks?

[amogles]

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	Children? I'd say 16 and 17 year olds whose future is at stake may well have put more thought and research into their vote than the oldies going 'lalalalala Rule Britannia' - really. Many of whom have died since- and will do before the outcome is known. As for accepting the outcome- are you of the Neil Hamilton school of thought- who told an MP at the Welsh Parliament today that those who don't like it always have suicide as an option?

Odile, sometimes you can be your own worst caricature.

	Quote:	amogles
	Odile, sometimes you can be your own worst caricature.

Admit it, Amogles: you eat babies for breakfast while reading the Telegraph. You're especially fond of the poor little coloured ones.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	marton
	Source Lloyd's of Brussels does not have quite the same ring to it? Source Now May has confirmed UK will not remain in the single market so firms must reduce their risks?

It mentioned subsidiary, so will still be Lloyds of London. Not much point in changing your name for the sake of just 10% of your business. TBH amazing they don't have sales offices throughout the world but then of course brokers come to Lloyds with specialist business rather than the other way round.

[marton]

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	Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator,sees three separate topics, in order: 1. disentangling past ties and commitments; 2. setting goals for future relations; 3. arranging transition terms to avoid unnecessary disruption. Each one could take between four and eight months.

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[Blueangel]

	Quote:	amogles
	It would sem to me the ripping apart of families is not so much a result of the vote itself as it is of people not accepting the outcome.

I mean in the logistical sense of term, and in that respect, everything's still up in the air. There are 10 nationalities in my close family, 8 of which are currently resident in the UK. 4 will likely have to surrender one of the dual nationalities they currently hold. The mother of one of those has already left the UK because she no longer felt welcome after 17years of raising her family there.

My OH never wants to live in the UK again, so it's likely that I'll never live there again. He can live there under his Commonwealth passport, but having been born and raised under apartheid, he no longer feels welcome.

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	Go and live in Greece for a bit. You'll hear it so often it won't bother you after a while.

Already spend more than enough time in Greece as it as my OH has a Greek passport, 50% of his family live there (including the omnipotent Mamma) and he has property there. He was working in the UK on his Greek passport. It's the most likely place that we'll retire to, but now he fancies Barcelona. We get accepted everywhere we go in Greece, particularly from the Australian, American and British Greeks who've 'gone home' for retirement.

Until the UK and EU are very clear over the futures of all the people who moved there, and the millions who moved to the EU, over the last 40yrs, a millions of people are very worried and weighing up their options, but facing at least 2yrs of limbo.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	It mentioned subsidiary, so will still be Lloyds of London.

Why would any government want to have Lloyds on their doorstep??? It takes on some of the most risky coverage in the world... and when it all goes pear shape, as it has in the past, leaving it to the British taxpayer to carry the can sounds like a positive!

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	marton
	Source Now May has confirmed UK will not remain in the single market so firms must reduce their risks?

JP Morgan was always going to leave if Brexit happened. If memory serves me correctly, they were the first to start rumblings of leaving shortly after the referendum was announced, so that's a hit to London and Bournemouth.

	Quote:	amogles
	Odile, sometimes you can be your own worst caricature.

Thanks, happy to please.

Anyone who denies that there has been a huge rise in racial attacks or every kind in the UK since last year, and in particular after June- is either totally deluded or completely out of touch with real life in the UK. I wonder how long some of you have spent there since then and read the Press. Never mind the Telegraph- look at the headlines, day in, day out, for the Daily Mail and the Sun. When a Welsh MP ( prize tw*t indeed, but people did elect him)- thinks it it ok to make comments about people who are concerned about the outcome of Brexit, especially on the poor- thinks it is OK to say suicide is always an option for them - then, yes, it is of great concern. Makes Marie-Antoinette's 'let them eat cake' seems very anodine indeed.

As for Banks- well, all I can say is that there are lots of other Big Banks and realted companies with VERY twitchy feet.

Another gem from Juncker.

EU to Trump: Mess With Brexit and We’ll Mess With Texas
Juncker threatens to promote Ohio independence after Trump’s Brexit backing

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	Thanks, happy to please. Anyone who denies that there has been a huge rise in racial attacks or every kind in the UK since last year, and in particular after June- is either totally deluded or completely out of touch with real life in the UK. I wonder how long some of you have spent there since then and read the Press. Never mind the Telegraph- look at the headlines, day in, day out, for the Daily Mail and the Sun. When a Welsh MP ( prize tw*t indeed, but people did elect him)- thinks it it ok to make comments about people who are concerned about the outcome of Brexit, especially on the poor- thinks it is OK to say suicide is always an option for them - then, yes, it is of great concern. Makes Marie-Antoinette's 'let them eat cake' seems very anodine indeed. As for Banks- well, all I can say is that there are lots of other Big Banks and realted companies with VERY twitchy feet.

Have you experienced or witnessed this rise of xenophobia and racism, or have you read about it?

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	Have you experienced or witnessed this rise of xenophobia and racism, or have you read about it?

Actually irrelevant as a sample size of one is meaningless.

However I'll hold any judgement until I see some real crime statistics.

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	Actually irrelevant as a sample size of one is meaningless.

Then why would one need to visit the UK as Odile suggests?

[marton]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Why would any government want to have Lloyds on their doorstep??? It takes on some of the most risky coverage in the world... and when it all goes pear shape, as it has in the past, leaving it to the British taxpayer to carry the can sounds like a positive!

Usually your posts are accurate but I do not know any occasion when the Govt. has subsidised Lloyds of London?
Maybe you are are confused with the Lloyds bank bailout

[marton]

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	Then why would one need to visit the UK as Odile suggests?

Fish & chips

[McTAVGE]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	It mentioned subsidiary, so will still be Lloyds of London. Not much point in changing your name for the sake of just 10% of your business. TBH amazing they don't have sales offices throughout the world but then of course brokers come to Lloyds with specialist business rather than the other way round.

Let them come to Geneva! The rental market is a little quiet at the moment
and it's high time we should be paying 3000 CHF+ for a broom cupboard again!

[marton]

	Quote:	McTAVGE
	Let them come to Geneva! The rental market is a little quiet at the moment and it's high time we should be paying 3000 CHF+ for a broom cupboard again!

Wrong city

Lloyd’s, London,
Zweigniederlassung Zürich
Seefeldstrasse 7
8008 Zürich
Schweiz

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Why would any government want to have Lloyds on their doorstep??? It takes on some of the most risky coverage in the world... and when it all goes pear shape, as it has in the past, leaving it to the British taxpayer to carry the can sounds like a positive!

I am scratching my head on that, no policy holder ever had a policy that could not pay out & no government help was required. Unlimited liability is a wonderful thing, it's a shame that it's not a requirement for all Banks & insurance companies for directors to have 100% personal liability.

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	Have you experienced or witnessed this rise of xenophobia and racism, or have you read about it?

Yes, and yes plus heard about many examples from family and friends- as well as of course so many examples in the Press and news. Some were experiences from family who didn't witness it - but were the culprits.

And you don't have to get the Daily Mail or the Sun to see their hate headlines, day in, day out.