The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[marton]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I saw Alexis Conran on tv this morning saying that his German wife has to fill in an 8 page form, so that a decision can be made on if she will be allowed to stay in the UK, even though she's lived and worked in the UK for 25yrs.

Is that a new form? I thought it was 80 pages long?

Alexis himself was born in Paris and grew up in Greece so I hope his situation is clear

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	I don't think so, they're far too deluded for that. They've hit the iceberg but it's full steam ahead. Mooooaaaar Europe! In other news, the Euro is currently tanking. 20 month low now against the dollar. Wonder what this will mean for the CHF?

And now;

• The euro is up 14 percent against the dollar and 9 percent against sterling this year.
• The common currency is currently the best performer among developed market currencies.
• Europe's improving growth contrasts with the U.K., which is losing economic momentum as it continues to deal with Brexit negotiations.

Source

EUR/CHF Consolidation Around 1.14 Here

euro currently on the up and up, of course currencies, like shares, can quickly change direction.
euro is currently seen as a safe haven versus the $ due to Trump, Hurricane, N. Korea.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	marton
	And now; The euro is up 14 percent against the dollar and 9 percent against sterling this year. The common currency is currently the best performer among developed market currencies. Europe's improving growth contrasts with the U.K., which is losing economic momentum as it continues to deal with Brexit negotiations. Source EUR/CHF Consolidation Around 1.14 Here euro currently on the up and up, of course currencies, like shares, can quickly change direction. euro is currently seen as a safe haven versus the $ due to Trump, Hurricane, N. Korea.

Eurozone could be in trouble as a result
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/eu...082900427.html

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I saw Alexis Conran on tv this morning saying that his German wife has to fill in an 8 page form, so that a decision can be made on if she will be allowed to stay in the UK, even though she's lived and worked in the UK for 25yrs.

I wonder if the fragrant Mrs Farage will have to do the same? Being a German, and all that...

[amogles]

	Quote:
	I wonder if the fragrant Mrs Farage will have to do the same? Being a German, and all that...

The OH's sister, who is German, has lived in the Uk for coming on 25 years, has aquired British Citizenship, while allowing her German passport and ID to lapse. So officially she's still German but doesn't have a passport or ID to prove it. On account of Brexit she decided to hedge her options and thus re-apply for a German passport. She received a letter and a form instructing her how to apply for German nationality (which she so far had assumed she had anyway). Among others, she needs to produce the birth certificates of her parents to prove they were German. She might even have to renounce her Uk citzenship.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:
	I wonder if the fragrant Mrs Farage will have to do the same? Being a German, and all that...

I wonder if her husband will care seeing as they haven't lived together for some time, and he's currently shacked up with French politician, Laure Ferrari (allegedly). Apparently, he wasn't even with his wife during the Brexit campaign, but it was all kept hush hush.

At the weekend, I heard that some of my former colleagues are probably being made redundant for the second time in as many years. They've been warned that their employer is in talks to move all their operations outside of London to Poland.

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I wonder if her husband will care seeing as they haven't lived together for some time, and he's currently shacked up with French politician, Laure Ferrari (allegedly). Apparently, he wasn't even with his wife during the Brexit campaign, but it was all kept hush hush.

So, Brexiteers, how does it feel to realise that you've been conned into voting for something, just because it would make it easier for Farage to get his ex deported?

[Capo]

	Quote:	marton
	And now; The euro is up 14 percent against the dollar and 9 percent against sterling this year. The common currency is currently the best performer among developed market currencies. Europe's improving growth contrasts with the U.K., which is losing economic momentum as it continues to deal with Brexit negotiations. Source EUR/CHF Consolidation Around 1.14 Here euro currently on the up and up, of course currencies, like shares, can quickly change direction. euro is currently seen as a safe haven versus the $ due to Trump, Hurricane, N. Korea.

The USA has been performing extremely well in the last 6 years while Europe considerably lagged behind. During this time everything went up in the USA, from the stock market to real estate. Now almost everything there is expensive while Europe returned to growth just recently. Thus it makes sense to realize some profits in dollars to buy assets in Europe.

[J2488]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	I wonder if her husband will care seeing as they haven't lived together for some time, and he's currently shacked up with French politician, Laure Ferrari (allegedly). Apparently, he wasn't even with his wife during the Brexit campaign, but it was all kept hush hush. At the weekend, I heard that some of my former colleagues are probably being made redundant for the second time in as many years. They've been warned that their employer is in talks to move all their operations outside of London to Poland.

Brexit Means Brexit (tm).




Oh, and Sovereignty.


They might be jobless peasants, but they'll be jobless peasants at the whim of the BRITISH government, not the EU.

[amogles]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	At the weekend, I heard that some of my former colleagues are probably being made redundant for the second time in as many years. They've been warned that their employer is in talks to move all their operations outside of London to Poland.

psst.

Poland is another one of those countries that is rapidly falling out of favour in Brussels.

[Reb77Br]

Tory retail tycoon mocked for wanting Brexit so staff can work longer hours

What a surprise!

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	At the weekend, I heard that some of my former colleagues are probably being made redundant for the second time in as many years. They've been warned that their employer is in talks to move all their operations outside of London to Poland.

Being that salaries are way lower in Poland, this would have happened in any case, especially as the £ would have been stronger today if the vote had been stay.

It's all about efficiency in a global market place, competition is a very good thing.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	amogles
	psst. Poland is another one of those countries that is rapidly falling out of favour in Brussels.

And it's a country that's actively asking it's expats to return, so they have a fair contingent of workers who speak fluent English now.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Being that salaries are way lower in Poland, this would have happened in any case, especially as the £ would have been stronger today if the vote had been stay.

Except the American company have said it's because they need to maintain their foothold within the EU and reduce their UK operations accordingly.

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	And it's a country that's actively asking it's expats to return, so they have a fair contingent of workers who speak fluent English now. Except the American company have said it's because they need to maintain their foothold within the EU and reduce their UK operations accordingly.

They are hardly going to say shareholders want to make more profit at the expense of overpaid British workers, much easier to blame it on BREXIT.

The Holy grail for investors is a company with zero staff, with AI getting close to that is a distinct possibility.

[Capo]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Being that salaries are way lower in Poland, this would have happened in any case, especially as the £ would have been stronger today if the vote had been stay. It's all about efficiency in a global market place, competition is a very good thing.

Believe it or not, some management positions in Poland have comparable salaries to those of Western Europe. A friend was transferred to Warsaw and earns more than the salary of the equivalent position in Paris, albeit in a top multinational. With lower taxes and lower cost of living, plus stunning blondes, he says it has been awesome.

[marton]

Brexit talks are unlikely to move ahead as planned in October because the British government is seen as weak, divided and unwilling to accept the full consequences of the decision to leave the EU, according to European ambassadors.

Speaking at France’s annual ambassadors’ week, Meyer-Landrut (Germany’s ambassador to France) said London appeared to be having “real difficulty in positioning itself collectively, as a government and a parliament, with regard to the substance of certain questions”.

Source

Who have thought that a party rife with mutiny and in-fighting, and needing a coalition with religious fundamentalists, would have problems finding a consistent position?

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:
	Who have thought that a party rife with mutiny and in-fighting, and needing a coalition with religious fundamentalists, would have problems finding a consistent position?

I think a hard Berxit will be the outcome, which is what the PM wants, hardly any surprise to me.

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	I think a hard Berxit will be the outcome, which is what the PM wants, hardly any surprise to me.

Well perhaps her trip to Japan will give her a dose of reality as she tries to persuade them offer the U.K. the same deal as the EU. Her problem is that they have a few other priorities: North Korea, Asian trade deal, EU trade deal....

And a big question she can't answer: "Many of our companies select the U.K. for access to the EU market, can you guarantee that will still be the case?"

Ah hard BREXIT... right we'll get back to you on that then.....

[Jim2007]

While the overall outcome of the recent talks are not good, they do seem to have come to some kind of understanding on a few things:

- Agreed the definition of pending cases for the EU courts and accepted the UK jurists will not remain on the bench for such cases

- Agreed to the continued mutual recognition of professional qualifications for existing exiles, no word on new arrivals after Mar 2019

- Agreed to preserve existing social welfare and health rights for existing exiles, again no word on what happens to new arrivals

- General agreement that the CTA will remain more or less unchanged after BREXIT. In particular free movement of EU citizens will be guaranteed within the CTA.

source

I find the last one rather interesting because it more or less means that taking back border control just got tossed out the window! If it remains as it is today then Irish immigration officers will still be responsible for regulating entry to the CTA. And as the ports of Cork, Rosslare and Waterford are expanded for direct export/import from France this may become a big issue.