The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[marton]

	Quote:	amogles
	Didn't Tusk say that Brexit would end Western Civilization? Others painted hyperbole about locusts and floods. Maybe God doesn't know that Texas isn't part of the UK.

So far reports of 60 deaths in Texas floods

[amogles]

	Quote:	marton
	So far reports of 60 deaths in Texas floods

Serves them right for messing with that alcoholic from Luxembourg.

LOL

https://twitter.com/peston/status/908414544111947776

[marton]

Britain not at back of queue for EU trade deal - Commissioner

Source

One rumour scotched

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Well what about Remain? A renewed insistence to adopt the Euro, no single country vetoes, a deeper union. All these were things that Remainers said would never happen. Well now according to an EU president, they are.

That are his (cl)aims, how exactly does that make them fact? Good gracious!

[Blueangel]

What's the economic definition of a f*** up? would it look anything like this?

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	LONDON (Reuters) - Around 10,000 finance jobs will be shifted out of Britain or created overseas in the next few years if the UK is denied access to Europe’s single market, according to a Reuters survey of firms employing the bulk of workers in international finance. Frankfurt was by far the most popular destination for the new roles, the survey showed, with Paris a distant second.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKCN1BT1EU

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	The Government faces a growing revolt from carmakers in Britain unhappy at the slow pace of clarity over post-Brexit customs arrangements crucial to their business model. Sky News has been shown internal industry memos, circulating at the Frankfurt Motor Show, expressing exasperation at the state of preparedness for changes to customs - which could come in in March 2019 and for which immediate investment and staffing is required.

http://news.sky.com/story/government...stoms-11041724

[Chuff]

The sheer amount of scare-mongering going on is hilarious, and some of you seem so easy to rattle.

Until we eave the EU we are going to hear a huge amount of 'what if's' all predicting doom and gloom, threats to move jobs etc etc... but I would bet my left nut that in the end it will be pretty damn smooth once everyone stops panicking and puffing up their chests and allow common sense to regain a foothold.

There is a good chance that within the decade or two more countries will want to leave the EU as it continues to culturally and economically fragment, and Britain will be looked to for advice on how to ensure a smooth transition in the years following it.

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Chuff
	The sheer amount of scare-mongering going on is hilarious, and some of you seem so easy to rattle.

It's a Reuters report. Not the Daily Mail or The Mirror....Reuters, who aren't famed for their scare-mongering.

Watching the PM tout her wares in Canada today reminded me of this little piece of government legislation...

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	Mandatory corporate reporting We introduced a regulation in June 2013 that requires all quoted companies to report on their GHG emissions. This regulation will provide transparency around how quoted companies are managing their carbon emissions – information that investors have been calling for. Following consultation on the draft regulation, ministers decided that regulation would come into effect in October 2013 to align with changes being made to the corporate reporting framework.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-gas-emissions


Well that's going to go for a ball of poop is she's praying for PB trade deals with Canada, Australia and Japan. All those poor P.A.s who wasted hours recording business travel carbon footprints to comply with government legislation.

[marton]

	Quote:
	A sharp fall in migrant workers coming to Britain as a consequence of Brexit could push up wages and cause a spike in inflation in the short term, according to Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England,

Seems to be already starting, the following graphs show employment more or less flat for the last 30 years but with an ever rising number of job vacancies over the last 5 years; this will cause employers to have to compete for staff with consequent rises in wages and inflation. Anyway inflation is on the rise
Plenty to worry about already today and Brexit is one and a half years away

[Jim2007]

	Quote:	Chuff
	Until we eave the EU we are going to hear a huge amount of 'what if's' all predicting doom and gloom, threats to move jobs etc etc... but I would bet my left nut that in the end it will be pretty damn smooth once everyone stops panicking and puffing up their chests and allow common sense to regain a foothold.

So which version of common sense would that be? The British version which seems to be that the EU will not stick to their principles and it will all work out OK or the EU version where logically they will stick to their principles and apply the rules and regulations as agreed between the 27?

	Quote:	Blueangel
	What's the economic definition of a f*** up? would it look anything like this?

Record unemployment, pound at its highest value since the Brexit vote. Yes, economic f*** up

	Quote:	marton
	Seems to be already starting, the following graphs show employment more or less flat for the last 30 years but with an ever rising number of job vacancies over the last 5 years; this will cause employers to have to compete for staff with consequent rises in wages and inflation. Anyway inflation is on the rise Plenty to worry about already today and Brexit is one and a half years away

Translation: "Employers are going to have to stop paying slave wages"

[Sbrinz]

It is very easy to move modern factories. Half the employers could relocate to eastern Europe with months of Brexit, leaving the UK looking very stupid.

Oh I forgot, Brexiteers think the rest of the world is just dying to help poor old GB get rich again....

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Record unemployment, pound at its highest value since the Brexit vote. Yes, economic f*** up

"Record unemployment" You seem to have missed the point which is "who will fill the record number of vacant jobs if migrants are to be limited?" especially with an ageing UK population.
Maybe companies will take their employment and vacancies to another country so solving this problem

"pound at its highest value since the Brexit vote." Yes it is only 20% lower against the euro (1.12 vs 1.42) than since just before the Brexit vote, Hallelujah!

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Record unemployment, pound at its highest value since the Brexit vote. Yes, economic f*** up

"Record unemployment" is a bit of a misnomer given that the government has found creative ways of massaging the figures with the invention of zero hours contracts.

You might have worked an afternoon a week last Tuesday for buttons therefore you're not counted as unemployed.

[StirB]

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	You might have worked an afternoon a week last Tuesday for buttons therefore you're not counted as unemployed.

Or you may have not worked a day in your life and all of a sudden find yourself as Foreign Secretary. Funny old world.

[Swisstree]

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	"Record unemployment" is a bit of a misnomer given that the government has found creative ways of massaging the figures with the invention of zero hours contracts. You might have worked an afternoon a week last Tuesday for buttons therefore you're not counted as unemployed.

Absolutely! I have never known the UK to be so thinly stretched as it is now.. Doesn't add up, everywhere you look: deep cutbacks with staff and services being run with little to no resources. Schools this Summer had to let go record number of staff across secondary and primary education as their budgets are so tight.

With the lack of real wages & salaries from secure work in the UK, 'tis little wonder the household debt is frighteningly high.

	Quote:	Swisstree
	With the lack of real wages & salaries from secure work in the UK, 'tis little wonder the household debt is frighteningly high.

This is more to do with people buying shit they can't afford. Which is a cultural issue imported from the States and has nothing to do with Brexit.

[Sandgrounder]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	This is more to do with people buying shit they can't afford. Which is a cultural issue imported from the States and has nothing to do with Brexit.

Like a house?

	Quote:	Sandgrounder
	Like a house?

Yes.