The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Odile]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Like your misrepresentation of what David Davis said, this also isn't true.

ah well- so many lies from the GVT and the Kippers- and even more from DD- so yes, it is hard these days to know what is true or not...

At least this is funny (rude- so you've been warned) - you have to laugh or ...

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...34&oe=5AD109A3

[StirB]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Also not true. Delete your account.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ys-home-office


"The blue and gold passports will be issued from October 2019, when the £490m passport contract begins, to British nationals renewing or applying for a new passport."


YOU ARE FAKE NEWS.

[Phos]

	Quote:	StirB
	YOU ARE FAKE NEWS.

That is funny from you. You may be starting to get it, finally.

I love how Theresa May and Poland danced over Guy Verhofstadt today. Class act.

I think a lot of this will come out of style and grace, and I don't see indications the EU bureaucrats know how to dance. Theresa May has it. I've seen it in PMQs.

The UK needs more direct diplomatic outreach like this to all Europeans, and continue to bypass and speak over the head of the EU. I suspect they won't know how to handle it and fumble.

	Quote:	StirB
	https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ys-home-office "The blue and gold passports will be issued from October 2019, when the £490m passport contract begins, to British nationals renewing or applying for a new passport." YOU ARE FAKE NEWS.

From your link:

"The British passport is redesigned every five years, and the new version will come into production next autumn when the current contract expires, the Home Office has announced."

The passport design is up for renewal anyway and precosted. Nothing to do with it being Blue. Fake News right back at you.

Stop. Bullshitting.

[StirB]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	From your link: "The British passport is redesigned every five years, and the new version will come into production next autumn when the current contract expires, the Home Office has announced." The passport design is up for renewal anyway and precosted. Nothing to do with it being Blue. Fake News right back at you. Stop. Bullshitting.

Merry Xmas Groundskeeper.

	Quote:	StirB
	More lies from David Davis. He said he'd resign if Damian Green was forced out of his position. He hasn't. So, so far it's just his own career that Damian Green has ruined, single-handedly.

While we're at it Mr. Fake News, from a gospel source of course:

"The threat by Davis to resign would only come into play were Green to be forced out on the word of the police, according to Davis’s friends. If the Cabinet Office inquiry were to prove that Green had lied, or other misconduct, then Davis accepts May would be entitled to act."

[StirB]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	While we're at it Mr. Fake News, from a gospel source of course: "The threat by Davis to resign would only come into play were Green to be forced out on the word of the police, according to Davis’s friends. If the Cabinet Office inquiry were to prove that Green had lied, or other misconduct, then Davis accepts May would be entitled to act."

Funny, there doesn't seem to be a direct quote from DD in there at all. You've really opened my eyes with this third hand evidence.

	Quote:	StirB
	Funny, there doesn't seem to be a direct quote from DD in there at all. You've really opened my eyes with this third hand evidence.

Well you know what they say, if it’s good enough do the Graun then it’s good enough for StirB.

[StirB]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	Well you know what they say, if it’s good enough do the Graun then it’s good enough for StirB.

Fake News.

[Odile]

Can anyone remember having a Tory blue passport- found my old old, with the corner cut and cancelled - it is so dark it is almost black. So much for having our passports 'back'.

Just like that (no fez):

https://www.facebook.com/scientistsf...4211507680856/

	Quote:	Odile
	Can anyone remember having a Tory blue passport- found my old old, with the corner cut and cancelled - it is so dark it is almost black. So much for having our passports 'back'.

If you don’t like it, you don’t have to use it.

Just wait until they remove the EU flag from car number plates

[pdofr]

	Quote:	Odile
	Can anyone remember having a Tory blue passport- found my old old, with the corner cut and cancelled - it is so dark it is almost black. So much for having our passports 'back'.

Anticipating plenty of travel, I got one with extra pages. To be honest it was a bit too bulky to fit neatly in an inside jacket pocket and I was glad when the smaller new version arrived.

I don't think the newer version had as many pages, but by the time it arrived, you no longer got a stamp when crossing EEC/EU borders.

[Odile]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	If you don’t like it, you don’t have to use it. Just wait until they remove the EU flag from car number plates

not got UK plates, so won't be an issue.
The point about the passport that it is nonsense to say 'we have got our blue passports back' stupid indeed and hardly a flipping priority ... doh.

Got 10 years to go on my current Burgundy coloured UK passport -hurrah.

[marton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	That's what's been weird about all Barnier's comments in recent weeks. He's not yet even been given his orders from the EU council over their position for the next round of talks, which he'll have to adhere to. At the moment he's just going off on one.

The key point which Barnier makes that you and the media seem to have missed is MFN.

The existing contracts follow the so-called Most Favored Nation principle, also known under the English abbreviation MFN ("most favored nation").
It states that benefits received by one EU contractor automatically apply to all others.

So if Brussels were to give the British a special deal on financial services, all the other EU trading partners would be entitled to the same without the EU getting more in return.
"The EU would have to unilaterally open its market much more to existing partners without, in return, gaining better access to their markets," says a Commission expert. "The cost to the EU would be enormous."

	Quote:	Odile
	not got UK plates, so won't be an issue. The point about the passport that it is nonsense to say 'we have got our blue passports back' stupid indeed and hardly a flipping priority ... doh. Got 10 years to go on my current Burgundy coloured UK passport -hurrah.

You don’t have to use a UK passport so that shouldn’t be an issue either.

And to be honest, I don’t think a blue passport is that important to most brexiteers.

[Blueangel]

And you'd be wrong...

	Quote:
	A YouGov survey earlier this year asked people what they would like to change after Brexit, and found that 52 per cent of Leave voters wanted to bring back the dark blue passport, compared with only 16 per cent of those who voted Remain.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8124526.html

[Blueangel]

The full survey results make...err...interesting reading

https://twitter.com/JoeTwyman/status/944145519047270405

Even I have no idea about pre-decimal currency.

[Dougal's Breakfast]

	Quote:	Phos
	Theresa May has it.

Theresa May is a traitor and a disgrace to both her party and country.

[marton]

	Quote:	Dougal's Breakfast
	Theresa May is a traitor and a disgrace to both her party and country.

Used to be traitoress but the word seems to have gone out of fashion like actress. All that time I wasted in school learning words that have gone

[Odile]

	Quote:	Blueangel
	The full survey results make...err...interesting reading https://twitter.com/JoeTwyman/status/944145519047270405 Even I have no idea about pre-decimal currency.

Incredible priorities hey

I first went to work in London in 1970 and it took me a while to get used to shillings, and sixpence, pounds and oz, Gallons and, having just passed my driving test, driving on the left and in a large very busy City. When I returned after ma car accident in the Summer of 1971 - had to get used to a new system again (well not driving on the left). 46 years later I still know some people who are unable to cope with grammes and kilos, centimetres and metres (it does make you wonder )