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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 15.03.2018, 16:40
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Well yes, we were in the EU in the 80s were we not ?

(unlike 1970/71)
Switzerland had no free-movement or bi-lateral agreements with the EU in the early 1980's. So if by 'we' you mean Switzerland then the answer is No.
It might be better to think a little longer before posting completely incorrect info about CH, it does not add credibility to the point that you're trying to make.
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Old 15.03.2018, 17:01
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I swopped my license from UK to Swiss in the early 1980's no problem at all, it was also fully exchangeable to French at the time.

FUD & nothing more
The relevant directive was issued in December 1980 (I did say 80s), Switzerland also joined in about then - can't find the date.

However the point is the existing agreement covers Switzerland and the EU (and some other countries). If the UK wish to continue this arrangement, they have to conclude their own agreements with the EU and Switzerland. Otherwise they simply fall.

Not a difficult thing to agree but still a certain amount of work that has to be done.
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Switzerland had no free-movement or bi-lateral agreements with the EU in the early 1980's. So if by 'we' you mean Switzerland then the answer is No.
It might be better to think a little longer before posting completely incorrect info about CH, it does not add credibility to the point that you're trying to make.
I did - the original comment in my list did NOT mention Switzerland, at all:

'UK driving licence no longer valid in EU & loss of green card insurance scheme and loss of Euro NCAP support.' Other friends from the EU had to retake driving licences at the same time as I did.
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Old 15.03.2018, 17:54
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I did - the original comment in my list did NOT mention Switzerland, at all:

'UK driving licence no longer valid in EU & loss of green card insurance scheme and loss of Euro NCAP support.' Other friends from the EU had to retake driving licences at the same time as I did.
I generally quote what I am responding to (except your long list as it would be a waste of data).

Green card insurance scheme is nothing to do with the EU. It's totally unnecessary to have a green card when driving in member states / CH as your insurance by law has to cover you for 3rd party risks in those states.

So what you mean is we MIGHT need a green card, for the first time in over 30 years it MIGHT become a legal requirement. No doubt you just copied from someone who did not understand what was written either
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Old 15.03.2018, 20:08
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It's totally unnecessary to have a green card when driving in member states / CH as your insurance by law has to cover you for 3rd party risks in those states.
Except you will not longer be a member state now will you!
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Old 15.03.2018, 20:21
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Except you will not longer be a member state now will you!
Please read what I was responding to & yes you are really clever & correct in what you say, I never disputed that fact either.

Odile claimed 'Loss of green card insurance scheme' as a result of leaving which is nonsense, no doubt you will disagree which is your default answer in any case .
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Old 16.03.2018, 20:29
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Did anyone here Grayling, our Transport Minister- on BBC Question Time last night - state that as it would not be possible to do checks for cars, lorries, and contents- there will be no post Brexit checks at Dover or Tunnel???

Completely bonkers- but at least it will solve the Calais camps in hours.
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Old 16.03.2018, 20:32
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Did anyone here Grayling, our Transport Minister- on BBC Question Time last night - state that as it would not be possible to do checks for cars, lorries, and contents- there will be no post Brexit checks at Dover or Tunnel???

Completely bonkers- but at least it will solve the Calais camps in hours.
There will be no point in fleeing to the UK if social benefits are not available, so we can say bye bye to those camps too.
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Old 16.03.2018, 20:39
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... and good bye to all exports to EU too
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Old 16.03.2018, 20:45
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... and good bye to all exports to EU too
No, they will be cheaper after tariffs in Euros than before the vote, so no loss to the UK, slightly higher profits in most cases. Remember nearly half of our EU exports leave the EU from Rotterdam so are not EU exports at all.
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A tad confused, hey - I said TO not FROM

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now this is weird - this statement by Grayling seems to be impossible to share any longer?!? Bizarre.It has gone from Question Time site too.
It's ok.

We've always been at war with Eastasia.
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Old 16.03.2018, 23:45
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43428802

How bonkers is that?
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Old 16.03.2018, 23:48
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HMRC only needs £7.3 million to avoid customs delays, seems like amazing value to me.
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Old 16.03.2018, 23:53
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A tad confused, hey - I said TO not FROM

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... and good bye to all exports to EU too
I am really confused now, you appeared to talk about exports to the EU & I said they would be cheaper. Did you mean imports where the Exporters will have to largely swallow any tariffs & exchange loss? Assuming they wish to retain their market share.
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LIVE: New draft text on Brexit deal published
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This is a positive sign...

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Gibralter is outside the tent, no transition deal

Surprised the DUP agreed to "Northern Ireland to have 'full [EU] regulatory alignment' as 'backstop'"!!

UK will no longer have a veto on new EU rules.

It is a sort of "no Brexit"?
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‘I made Steve Bannon’s psychological warfare tool’: meet the data war whistleblower

"For more than a year we’ve been investigating Cambridge Analytica and its links to the Brexit Leave campaign in the UK and Team Trump in the US presidential election. Now, 28-year-old Christopher Wylie goes on the record to discuss his role in hijacking the profiles of millions of Facebook users in order to target the US electorate
by Carole Cadwalladr"


The journalist suggests illegal activity on the part of the Leave side here:
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/s...43199075700736

"Thing is IF Cambridge Analytica did "help" @LeaveEUOfficial (as they said they did), that would be illegal.....an "impermissible" donation. A foreign billionaire buying influence in a UK election.

Quick re-cap on the law: it is illegal for campaigns to co-ordinate - unless they declare expenditure jointly. (They didn't.)"
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