The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[st2lemans]

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	And in the meantime- I'll just add Unilever to the list.

Unilever are SCUM!

Good riddance!

Tom

[st2lemans]

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	No we weren't in the EU in the 80s.

And we still aren't.

Tom

[Urs Max]

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	FUD & nothing more

Something tells me the convertibility of a driving license is of marginal significance in the greater scheme of Brexit.

[fatmanfilms]

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	Spain is already unhappy with the costs it carries because of the EHIC card so expect the cost will go up there for instance.

Surely the UK repays Spain for any expenses in cured in treating British EHIC cardholders, the system for charging exists so costs host countries nothing. Really no reason to change anything.

On a brighter note, The Chancellor delivered his Spring Statement this week with some good news about our economy. The UK has come a long way over the last eight years, with our economy growing strongly, unemployment at a near-record low, the deficit down and £60bn of investment in public services and infrastructure. Thanks to the hard work of the British people we are now at a turning point, and in 2018-19 we are forecast to see the beginning of the first sustained fall in debt for a generation.
Manufacturing has grown for the longest consecutive period in 50 years. There are 1.2 million more businesses across the UK. And next month, we're increasing the National Living Wage again, which means a full-time worker will be over £2,000 a year better off since its introduction.

[fatmanfilms]

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	Well yes, we were in the EU in the 80s were we not ? (unlike 1970/71)

Switzerland had no free-movement or bi-lateral agreements with the EU in the early 1980's. So if by 'we' you mean Switzerland then the answer is No.
It might be better to think a little longer before posting completely incorrect info about CH, it does not add credibility to the point that you're trying to make.

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	I swopped my license from UK to Swiss in the early 1980's no problem at all, it was also fully exchangeable to French at the time. FUD & nothing more

The relevant directive was issued in December 1980 (I did say 80s), Switzerland also joined in about then - can't find the date.

However the point is the existing agreement covers Switzerland and the EU (and some other countries). If the UK wish to continue this arrangement, they have to conclude their own agreements with the EU and Switzerland. Otherwise they simply fall.

Not a difficult thing to agree but still a certain amount of work that has to be done.

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	Switzerland had no free-movement or bi-lateral agreements with the EU in the early 1980's. So if by 'we' you mean Switzerland then the answer is No. It might be better to think a little longer before posting completely incorrect info about CH, it does not add credibility to the point that you're trying to make.

I did - the original comment in my list did NOT mention Switzerland, at all:

'UK driving licence no longer valid in EU & loss of green card insurance scheme and loss of Euro NCAP support.' Other friends from the EU had to retake driving licences at the same time as I did.

[fatmanfilms]

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	I did - the original comment in my list did NOT mention Switzerland, at all: 'UK driving licence no longer valid in EU & loss of green card insurance scheme and loss of Euro NCAP support.' Other friends from the EU had to retake driving licences at the same time as I did.

I generally quote what I am responding to (except your long list as it would be a waste of data).

Green card insurance scheme is nothing to do with the EU. It's totally unnecessary to have a green card when driving in member states / CH as your insurance by law has to cover you for 3rd party risks in those states.

So what you mean is we MIGHT need a green card, for the first time in over 30 years it MIGHT become a legal requirement. No doubt you just copied from someone who did not understand what was written either

[Jim2007]

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	It's totally unnecessary to have a green card when driving in member states / CH as your insurance by law has to cover you for 3rd party risks in those states.

Except you will not longer be a member state now will you!

[fatmanfilms]

	Quote:	Jim2007
	Except you will not longer be a member state now will you!

Please read what I was responding to & yes you are really clever & correct in what you say, I never disputed that fact either.

Odile claimed 'Loss of green card insurance scheme' as a result of leaving which is nonsense, no doubt you will disagree which is your default answer in any case .

[marton]

Transport for London, which operates the city's tube and bus networks, said Monday it had rejected the ad by Normandy's regional government because it "did not fully comply with its advertising guidelines."

Did anyone here Grayling, our Transport Minister- on BBC Question Time last night - state that as it would not be possible to do checks for cars, lorries, and contents- there will be no post Brexit checks at Dover or Tunnel???

Completely bonkers- but at least it will solve the Calais camps in hours.

[fatmanfilms]

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	Did anyone here Grayling, our Transport Minister- on BBC Question Time last night - state that as it would not be possible to do checks for cars, lorries, and contents- there will be no post Brexit checks at Dover or Tunnel??? Completely bonkers- but at least it will solve the Calais camps in hours.

There will be no point in fleeing to the UK if social benefits are not available, so we can say bye bye to those camps too.

... and good bye to all exports to EU too

[fatmanfilms]

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	... and good bye to all exports to EU too

No, they will be cheaper after tariffs in Euros than before the vote, so no loss to the UK, slightly higher profits in most cases. Remember nearly half of our EU exports leave the EU from Rotterdam so are not EU exports at all.

A tad confused, hey - I said TO not FROM

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	http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-4342 now this is weird - this statement by Grayling seems to be impossible to share any longer?!? Bizarre.It has gone from Question Time site too.

It's ok.

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43428802

How bonkers is that?

[fatmanfilms]

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	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43428802 How bonkers is that?

HMRC only needs £7.3 million to avoid customs delays, seems like amazing value to me.

[fatmanfilms]

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	A tad confused, hey - I said TO not FROM

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	... and good bye to all exports to EU too

I am really confused now, you appeared to talk about exports to the EU & I said they would be cheaper. Did you mean imports where the Exporters will have to largely swallow any tariffs & exchange loss? Assuming they wish to retain their market share.