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View Poll Results: What would you personally prefer to happen?
I want the UK to stay in an ever-closer union 49 23.11%
I want the UK to stay in a loosely connected EU 68 32.08%
I want the UK out because the EU is bad for the UK 22 10.38%
I want the UK out because the EU is a bad thing 23 10.85%
I want the UK out because this would be good for the rest of us 17 8.02%
I don't really care 33 15.57%
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Old 19.03.2018, 14:13
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This is a positive sign...

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Old 19.03.2018, 17:15
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Gibralter is outside the tent, no transition deal

Surprised the DUP agreed to "Northern Ireland to have 'full [EU] regulatory alignment' as 'backstop'"!!

UK will no longer have a veto on new EU rules.

It is a sort of "no Brexit"?
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‘I made Steve Bannon’s psychological warfare tool’: meet the data war whistleblower

"For more than a year we’ve been investigating Cambridge Analytica and its links to the Brexit Leave campaign in the UK and Team Trump in the US presidential election. Now, 28-year-old Christopher Wylie goes on the record to discuss his role in hijacking the profiles of millions of Facebook users in order to target the US electorate
by Carole Cadwalladr"


The journalist suggests illegal activity on the part of the Leave side here:
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/s...43199075700736

"Thing is IF Cambridge Analytica did "help" @LeaveEUOfficial (as they said they did), that would be illegal.....an "impermissible" donation. A foreign billionaire buying influence in a UK election.

Quick re-cap on the law: it is illegal for campaigns to co-ordinate - unless they declare expenditure jointly. (They didn't.)"
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Old 19.03.2018, 23:01
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Surprised the DUP agreed to "Northern Ireland to have 'full [EU] regulatory alignment' as 'backstop'"!!
The DUP have a track record of picking the wrong horse... now they loose no matter which way the jump. Bring down the government and fight a general election on the future of NI, with the voters of the main land deciding the future... or accept the deal and hope to paint it in the best possible light. The deal is probably a little better than a defeat at a GE as that would really be their end.
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Old 20.03.2018, 01:31
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The DUP have a track record of picking the wrong horse... now they loose no matter which way the jump. Bring down the government and fight a general election on the future of NI, with the voters of the main land deciding the future... or accept the deal and hope to paint it in the best possible light. The deal is probably a little better than a defeat at a GE as that would really be their end.
Your forgetting that there is NO DEA, until everything is agreed, the backstop is a nonsense as we could export via Ireland which will remain in the EU.

If I was negotiating I would stop all payments to the EU until we had a deal & would happily see the EU go bankrupt, no need to play nice, this is business, not pleasure.
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Old 20.03.2018, 01:48
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Your forgetting that there is NO DEA, until everything is agreed, the backstop is a nonsense as we could export via Ireland which will remain in the EU.

If I was negotiating I would stop all payments to the EU until we had a deal & would happily see the EU go bankrupt, no need to play nice, this is business, not pleasure.
The backstop that NI stays under EU regulations means that there would be a Customs border between mainland UK and Ireland (including NI).
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Old 20.03.2018, 02:24
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The backstop that NI stays under EU regulations means that there would be a Customs border between mainland UK and Ireland (including NI).
One came only assume that the UK government expects it will never come to that. Because the reality would be Irish customs officers in NI, Irish Navy conducting boarding parties of the NI coast and passport checks between NI and mainland UK. Can’t imagine it.
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If I was negotiating I would stop all payments to the EU until we had a deal & would happily see the EU go bankrupt, no need to play nice, this is business, not pleasure.
Oh reality still not sunk in - when you negotiate with major trade blocks, you don’t get to set the terms. Like the EU, you can expect the Donald to teach you as well...
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Old 20.03.2018, 08:03
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Oh reality still not sunk in - when you negotiate with major trade blocks, you don’t get to set the terms. Like the EU, you can expect the Donald to teach you as well...
I really would not be so sure, Germany car industry is about to be in severe pain with steel tariffs & the UK is a huge market for their products. Add to that they have bet on diesel technology when electric is the future. Dyson will be releasing a car, it's a new world & to survive will require being nimble, something the EU is not.
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BBC - Cambridge Analytica: The story so far

Channel 4 - Cambridge Analytica Uncovered: Secret filming reveals election tricks

Judging from what is said in the Channel 4 film, it looks as if secret service operatives may have had a hand in things. What is emerging appears rather murky but it seems unlikely that it will stop Brexit.
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Old 20.03.2018, 12:37
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Judging from what is said in the Channel 4 film, it looks as if secret service operatives may have had a hand in things.
They said former MI6 and MI5. Is there any evidence of current operatives being involved?
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Old 20.03.2018, 12:59
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Who knows, and who knows what "former" means in practice.

There was an interview last night on CNN International with the Cambridge Analytica "whistleblower" Christopher Wylie. It wasn't the British secret service that he mentioned. The video/transcript don't seem to be available, but this one is:
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/...-facebook-scam
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Old 20.03.2018, 13:07
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What is emerging appears rather murky but it seems unlikely that it will stop Brexit.
Every country around the World should be sitting up and taking notice of this. They were very proud of a the role they recently played in swaying the election in an Eastern European country, and it stuck in my craw when the other guy bragged about being a master of disguise.

10yrs ago, this would have been expolsive stuff. But now... I wish it were.
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Old 20.03.2018, 13:20
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I really would not be so sure, Germany car industry is about to be in severe pain with steel tariffs & the UK is a huge market for their products. Add to that they have bet on diesel technology when electric is the future. Dyson will be releasing a car, it's a new world & to survive will require being nimble, something the EU is not.
I think you will see that VW is investing heavily to gain a competative stake in the electric car market with the aim of out competing Tesla in the near future and probably at a fraction of the cost. Lol, Dyson would have a long way to go before he could touch the automobile market, people will call his cars hand dryers

first google result: https://electrek.co/2018/01/31/vw-el...ickau-factory/
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Also tempted to change my fb profile to say that I'm a 6ft Brazillian man who loves...Arsenal...
Believe me, it's not worth it Fam. All I get is despressing videos from Arsenal about the good old days, whilst cunningly sidestepping any current content.
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Lol, Dyson would have a long way to go before he could touch the automobile market, people will call his cars hand dryers
In his wildest dreams, Dyson wishes he had the brand loyalty of this lil fella...
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Just google the Rees-Mogg story about flinging fish in the Thames.

Can't. Breathe.

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Just google the Rees-Mogg story about flinging fish in the Thames.

Can't. Breathe.

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"I'm not a fish thrower", Rees-Mogg tells LBC. "I won't be throwing fish anywhere. I have a nasty feeling if I started throwing fish they'd be brought back by the wind and hit me in the face"

That could give you a nasty haddock.
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Just google the Rees-Mogg story about flinging fish in the Thames.

Can't. Breathe.

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rofl indeed- now where is that video of the reporter being hit with a very big fish when reporting a storm in UK - coulde anyone make my day and photoshop it with Rees-Mogg - oh please, pretty please

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