The Brexit referendum thread: potential consequences for GB, EU and the Brits in CH

[Medea Fleecestealer]

Naughty, naughty.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-...endum-36457120

Ignore the will of the people at your peril Parliament. Don't believe the UK public don't know what they're voting for because they do.

[marton]

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	Naughty, naughty. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-...endum-36457120 Ignore the will of the people at your peril Parliament. Don't believe the UK public don't know what they're voting for because they do.

The will of 38%?

Sounds like a good idea if only few people actually vote

Finally got our postal votes today- done and returned.

[Medea Fleecestealer]

	Quote:	marton
	The will of 38%? Sounds like a good idea if only few people actually vote

As that tends to be around the norm in any election/referendum then yes.

[Urs Max]

	Quote:	fatmanfilms
	It's huge, however for sales to the EU those regulations need to be followed. The sooner the UK gets it's act together, sales to the EU won't be important, the world is a much bigger market than the EU.

The world has been there all the time, if the UK was competitive they'd be exporting much more already. Whether the falling £ would provide more than just a temporary boost seems quite unlikely as its long-term trend is down already.

[lewton]

How often does La Liberation translate an article to English.
This must be important I guess.

Brexit : Saving private Europe

	Quote:
	Dear Britons, if you stay, you will ruin our lives like never before. Here is why. [...] So, English friends, have courage! Let yourself be won over by such brilliant leaders as Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson, who in their hearts simply want what’s best for Europe. We promise we’ll let you back in in twenty years. On our conditions, of course, in sackcloth and rope : a small price to pay to save the European dream.

[MidfieldGeneral]

	Quote:	lewton
	How often does La Liberation translate an article to English. This must be important I guess. Brexit : Saving private Europe

I didn't understand a word of that, it was probably more coherent in French

France, a country paralysed by strikes, that's twice the size of the UK with a larger population yet a smaller economy. And this French article is basically saying "watch out UK".

[lewton]

	Quote:	Loz1983
	France, a country paralysed by strikes, that's twice the size of the UK with a larger population yet a smaller economy. And this French article is basically saying "watch out UK".

No, it's saying "please leave us".

[Sbrinz]

For years Nigel Farage has been banging on about the danger with EU migration to Britain. The referendum was originally his idea, and a lot of his claims have been taken on board by the "Leave Campaign"

Last night (7th June) he appeared on ITV in front of an audience and answered questions from the public. I had half an ear to it, as I am not a believer in Farage, but today I find a scathing attack on his performance. There is also a link to the video of the programme, so you can judge for yourselves if the attack on Farage is justified,

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-debate-itvs-audience-dismantled-nigel-124111748.html?nhp=1

Cameron also received a roasting!

[Blueangel]

	Quote:	Sbrinz
	I had half an ear to it, as I am not a believer in Farage, but today I find a scathing attack on his performance.

It was at best, weak. He doesn't stand up to scruting and is far better at playing the persona he created for himself.

He's been trotting out the same lines for so long now, that I wonder if he believes it himself anymore. The last time I saw Radiohead, someone shouted for them to play 'Creep'. Thom Yorke told him to f off and get over it. I'm waiting for Farage to say the same one day.

[Fish Paste]

	Quote:	Sbrinz
	Cameron also received a roasting!

Cameron was not great, he avoided quite a few of the questions, and answered some very badly, so although he was more eloquent, he did not fare well.

Such as the "Murderers and rapists can not be deported back to the EU. Why were they not stopped at the border?"
Cameron "We can and do stop people who are a risk to national security at the border"

Criminals are not a risk to national security, and as such can not be denied entry.

In my recent straw poll of family, friends and ex-colleagues in the UK, everyone is for Brexit. This could be closer than people expect.

[Phil_MCR]

	Quote:	Sbrinz
	For years Nigel Farage has been banging on about the danger with EU migration to Britain. The referendum was originally his idea, and a lot of his claims have been taken on board by the "Leave Campaign"

Farage does appallingly on TV or in any context really, other than making pre-prepared speeches. I think he is as much a liability as an asset to the Leave campaign, but then again, without his years of pressuring, there may not have been a referendum to begin with.

[amogles]

	Quote:	MidfieldGeneral
	I didn't understand a word of that, it was probably more coherent in French

To me it sounded like something Faltrad would have written.

A lot of thumping and soap box but not much froth or lather.

In many discussions here, including Brexit- it is not Faltrad who is normally frothing at the mouth though

	Quote:	Blueangel
	It was at best, weak. He doesn't stand up to scruting and is far better at playing the persona he created for himself. He's been trotting out the same lines for so long now, that I wonder if he believes it himself anymore. The last time I saw Radiohead, someone shouted for them to play 'Creep'. Thom Yorke told him to f off and get over it. I'm waiting for Farage to say the same one day.

Yep, like a tired old comedy act, trotting out the same old stuff night after night..

I do find him funny at times tho'

[Reb77Br]

	Quote:	Fish Paste
	In my recent straw poll of family, friends and ex-colleagues in the UK, everyone is for Brexit. This could be closer than people expect.

Perhaps compounded by the break-down of the registration system and non-arrival of overseas postal votes.

Thousands of EU referendum postal votes feared lost in Germany
"Germany’s postal service says some of its workers rejected pre-paid envelopes sent out to British voters living abroad"

This happened to someone I know living in Belgium. He was told by his local post office that his pre-paid envelope would be binned unless he put stamps on it.

	Quote:	Reb77Br
	Perhaps compounded by the apparent break-down of the registration system and non-arrival of overseas postal votes. Thousands of EU referendum postal votes feared lost in Germany "Germany’s postal service says some of its workers rejected pre-paid envelopes sent out to British voters living abroad" This happened to someone I know living in Belgium. He was told that his prepaid envelope would be binned unless he put stamps on it.

Our envelopes clearly said 'no stamp required' and the Head of our Post Office confirmed it was OK. But we will never have proof that our votes will get there and be counted!?

[Medea Fleecestealer]

Ha, ha! I did warn you.

[Reb77Br]

	Quote:
	Our envelopes clearly said 'no stamp required' and the Head of our Post Office confirmed it was OK. But we will never have proof that our votes will get there and be counted!?

The higher-ups may know it's OK, but do the lower-downs? Here's hoping most of them do!

It's ironic that while Leave supporters squawk about EU red tape, postal services seem to be one area that hasn't been harmonised.